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Window and Door Lintel in Sections

snow
Enthusiast
Hello all together,

I almost presume that this topic was mentioned here already (If not, I wonder why) I could find this, that touches it. But my point is not to get a structure element there in but it is about the basic (true) display.

… so I post this.


section

When do we geht a version that displays wall closure also for the lintel?
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Podolsky
Ace
There were rumours, that Graphisoft plans to update windows and door tool (rumours came from Schüco). Maybe this problem is going to be fixed there?

Johan Stinckens
Enthusiast
I recently modelled a building which has on it's top level wood cladding.
These windows should have a header finish identical to those of the sides.
It shows in 3D but not in 2D.

For smaller windows we might even want the sill removed and replaced by a similar finish (see left window).

In modern building design this is surely not uncommon.

So why isn't this available in Archicad?
Long overdue!

Johan
Johan Stinckens
BIM Modeller at Atrium Architecten
Archicad user since April 2014 (v17 - v25) - CC iRT i9-12900 - 64 GB / Nvidia Geforce RTX 3080 - Windows 10 Pro 64

Other than that it's hiking, camping, climbing.

runxel
Ace
Some windows have the option to show this in 3D. It is not "on" by default, tho.

I found that shells work wonder!
Mostly AC 26 on Mac | Author of SelfGDL | Developer of the GDL plugin for Sublime Text |
«Furthermore, I consider that Carth... yearly releases must be destroyed»

Would you mind elaborating on how you use the Shell tool in this context?

Andre Steynberg
Win 10 64-bit
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Anonymous
Not applicable
Just for the record...
I remember a recent topic that talked about this old well known issue... It was suggested that GS should make Windows/Doors and Openings complementary to each other. A Window/Door would automatically create an Opening... and leaving Lintels, sills and jambs definitions to Openings (with individual CP's for each edge). More in line with Renovation workflows.

snow
Enthusiast
runxel wrote:
Some windows have the option to show this in 3D...
Do you mean the option here?

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Lingwisyer
Legend
This "Show in 3D" option is kind of a lie as it doesn't turn anything, it just increased extrudes your walls to cover the area the turning would be, so things are still wrong in Sections.



Ling.

ps. Anyone know how, in GDL, to get fills in an object to merge with those in a wall when they overlap? I can only seem to get them to merge when the butt with each other...
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snow
Enthusiast
So I thank you all for your contributions to this topic.

The more I think about the "Window and Door Topic", the more needs for improvements I see.
…it looks for me, that there should be almost a section here for improvement suggestions just only for windows and doors in this forum.

It seems that the search option gets overstrained with this:


setted:


So there should be a way to get an overview of all the issues about doors and windows…
I think every suggestion should be separate, just that it can be voted and mixing not different things can be avoided.

So I think I will raise a topic and call it just 'Window and Door Improvement Suggestions', as a collection of links to all the specific topics... and look what's happening
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Lingwisyer
Legend
Yeah, it is pretty stupid that there are a lot of words which are "too common" yet are key words... You have to resort to using Google or such to search the forum instead of the forums inbuilt search function for a lot of things...
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Johan Stinckens
Enthusiast
runxel wrote:
Some windows have the option to show this in 3D. It is not "on" by default, tho.

I found that shells work wonder!
Sorry, I noticed that I made a typo in my post!

It should read "It shows in 3D , but not in 2D"
Johan Stinckens
BIM Modeller at Atrium Architecten
Archicad user since April 2014 (v17 - v25) - CC iRT i9-12900 - 64 GB / Nvidia Geforce RTX 3080 - Windows 10 Pro 64

Other than that it's hiking, camping, climbing.

Minh Nguyen
Graphisoft Alumni
Graphisoft Alumni
Hi All,

Thank you very much for sharing your opinions regarding the wish!

I am happy to say we took notice of this wish and I have added it to our Wish List database (please refer to it as IDEA-1410). Hopefully, our Product Management team will adopt this one in the future.

Thank you all once more, and I wish you a great day!

Best regards,
Minh

Minh Nguyen
Technical Support Engineer
GRAPHISOFT

With all due respect, Minh, the wish list has been jam packed with very good ideas for years now, most of which haven't seen the light of day as of yet. I understand there are lots and lots of things to improve, but how is it then that giant architecture companies manage to develop their own plugins to fix these issues, but Graphisoft can't? It seems to me this is just a marketing strategy which would be most infuriating. As a user of Archicad for the past decade, I couldn't help but take note that Vectorworks, not to mention Revit, figured a lot of these things out, and are still working on newer and newer developments. 

 

This way, I'm pretty sure that the relatively generous market share that Graphisoft has in the present will slowly but surely crumble. 

 

Yeah, BIM & interoperability, green energy focus, bla bla bla. We don't have lintels! We don't have doors and windows skin return in sections. Come on.

Victor Cosmin Pop / Architect

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Hmooslechner
Advisor
hopefully not the management-team, but the gdl-scripter-team with real Architects!
AC5.5-AC25EduAut, PC-Win10, MacbookAirM1

Sorry everyone, forgot about this question.

I can't help you with the OOTB door and window objects but...

We have it working our Archicad door and window tool Infinite Openings. It does the plaster returns, wall closure, and also has a dedicated flexible lintel component. This tool is constantly being enhanced to include new components and details.

Check out the videos on YouTube: (32) Infinite Openings - YouTube

Creator of Cadswift's parametric GDL libraries
Creator of Infinite Openings and Component Catalogues
Push the envelope & watch it bend
website: https://cadswift.com.au/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/CADSwift/playlists

This is awesome! Do you guys offer educational versions? Would love to use this but the price is quite steep for architecture students.

Victor Cosmin Pop / Architect

www.atelierularhitext.com

AC25 INT • M1 MacBook Pro 8 GB RAM (for late nights couch working) • Windows 10 2080TI Ryzen 5950X 128 GB RAM (for burning money on electricity)

Hi Victor,

Yes, we do offer education al versions. Please contact me directly to discuss.

regards,

Creator of Cadswift's parametric GDL libraries
Creator of Infinite Openings and Component Catalogues
Push the envelope & watch it bend
website: https://cadswift.com.au/
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