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autocad style selection or something similar

Anonymous
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This has probably been mentioned before...
I really dislike having to select the arrow button and then selecting partial or entire elements selection....it''s a waste of clicks
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Anonymous
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Doesn't shift+click work for you? It's much better than arrow-tool though you could choose what (first) object it should select if you have slabs, walls etc. at the same point.

Anonymous
Not applicable
And use Space+Shift to ignore slabs or fills when you're within their bounds.

Anonymous
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shift and click works good(i use it continuously) to activate temporarily the arrow key but I cannot select between partial element selection or entire element selection
and shift + space activates the magnet selection which is something different and doesn't help if you want to select more than one element quickly

Anonymous
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Lukas, you should have explained your wish for those forum users, who have never worked in AutoCAD and do not have an idea what you are wishing!

So, I will try to do it:

In AutoCAD Arrow Tool Selection Methods are activated automatically by the direction of movement of the mouse - Entire Elements Selection Mode is activated by moving mouse from left to right, and the Partial Elements Selection Mode by moving it from right to left. As easy as that!

Compared to this way of selection the AC way is horrible!

Anonymous
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I see a lot of people have voted Not needed?!?

This is the way AutoCAd users react when I tell them an architectural CAD application should have Stories and Walls!

You should not judge something you have never seen!

Rob
Graphisoft
Graphisoft
I am happy with selection operation as it is and I've got no interest in changing it...simple as that
::rk

Anonymous
Not applicable
Rob, it should remain the same for users who do not want to use it. It just needs a check box in Work Environment.

But I am sure you would use it once you have tryed it! It is really a nice feature!

Rob
Graphisoft
Graphisoft
kliment, do not get me wrong but AC settings are getting complicated too much I am not sure about all those options, buttons and switches... then all that confusion if someone in the office discovered a different option...problems and problems to keep it uniform... it's not worth it.
::rk

Anonymous
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This is not about complicating things in Archicad but making things easier and quicker for the user. I think that adding such a shortcut wouldn't make your life more complicated. That's why it's called a shortcut.
I have never used Autocad but I know about the selection method and I find it very useful.

TomWaltz
Newcomer
I used Autocad for a few years and I always hated the right-left left-right selection thing. It seemed really inconsistent and I always found myself fighting it.
Tom Waltz

Anonymous
Not applicable
Lukas,

You are dead right, it has been mentioned before (see post)

But unfortunately you tend to get the same tired old responses from anyone who hasn't used AutoCAD or Allplan or any other CAD package whose programmers have realised this is a really smart feature.

I have been using ArchiCAD for about 15 years, but only used Allplan for about a year, and I immediately found the AutoCAD selection method extremely useful, and have therefore tried to add my weight and my poll to the topic.

I just wish some of our fellow ArchiCAD users would realise that Graphisoft can and must look at how other CAD software works and pick out the smart ideas to incorporate in ArchiCAD.

The smart thing to do is what Allplan does, and that is to give users a choice of:
  • selecting elements entirely within the selection box (as ArchiCAD)
    selecting elements within and crossing the direction box (as ArchiCAD)
    selecting elements by the direction the selection box is drawn (the AutoCAD selection method)
Allplan also tints the selection box depending on the direction, which helps remind you what method you are using.

And Tom & Rob,

I guess if Graphisoft had posted a poll about say the tracker, they would have had a number of users who said we don't want this feature, and yet after a few weeks you feel like you can't do without it. For me the AutoCAD style selection is the same.

I for one will be really frustrated if Graphisoft have not included it in ArchiCAD 11.

TomWaltz
Newcomer
Andy wrote:
And Tom & Rob,

I guess if Graphisoft had posted a poll about say the tracker, they would have had a number of users who said we don't want this feature, and yet after a few weeks you feel like you can't do without it.
I didn't like Tracker when it was new and I still don't. I thought maybe it was just me, but none of my 25 users liked it either. Out of them, only 1 actually uses it.
Tom Waltz

Rob
Graphisoft
Graphisoft
Tom, strangely enough I actually use the tracker, I have used to it quite quickly somehow.
::rk

Anonymous
Not applicable
Guys, as I have mentioned before, it could be as simple as that - a check box in Work Environment.
Switched Off for Old-style-AC-lovers! 😉
Arrow tool wish.jpg

Anonymous
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coming from autocad - this is still the one most desired option that i too would like to see. And, to allow a selection check box for those who don't like it - because whatever - so they have the choice to not use it. The current selection method uses up too many mouse/button/wrist movements that i could use doing other things.

A prayer >> Please, oh fairey god princess, please guide the graphisoft code develpment wizards to offer the option to have a drag left or drag right to select entirely within or crossing method like (i dare to say) autocad. Amen.

I tried - again.

Laura Yanoviak
Enthusiast
Tom had made a suggestion somewhere for a toggle between the two marquee selection modes -- I think that would be a good idea (instead of having the selection dependent on the direction of the drag).
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Link
Expert
It's been discussed for years. Here's a poll on simply allowing us an arrow tool selection toggle.

Cheers,
Link.

Anonymous
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Link wrote:
It's been discussed for years...
Thanks Link, but it just needs fixing.

In my opinion the selection by direction of marquee option is better than a shortcut key, because effectively you have both methods ready and available all the time.

Allplan has the options of direction based selection, inside the marquee, inside & crossing the marquee, and crossing the marquee (see below)

Like any changes to the User Interface, it just takes a bit of time to learn an new way of working. But small improvements can really improve the user experience.

TomWaltz
Newcomer
Andy wrote:
Link wrote:
It's been discussed for years...
Thanks Link, but it just needs fixing.

In my opinion the selection by direction of marquee option is better than a shortcut key, because effectively you have both methods ready and available all the time.

Like any changes to the User Interface, it just takes a bit of time to learn an new way of working. But small improvements can really improve the user experience.
How would the right/left thing work with the Polygon or Rotated Rectangle selection methods?
Tom Waltz

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