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Archicad Future, 27 Poll

bouhmidage
Advisor

Archicad 26 was released yesterday, personnally i'm disappointed of how Archicad is slowly developped in the last 4 years, the pandemic has it' effects on business for sure, but we expected more since earlier versions used to bring nice and cool features, 

 

I created this tread for users who have ideas, suggestions, propositions for the next release, we may express our thoughts, and give guidelines for development team, Graphisoft is listening, i'm sure, 

 

For me, the most important thing to in an urgent way is to stop this multilingual installers strategy, 

Archicad 26 is released, all the world can download it with a multilangual installer,  : 

1 - download and install in a preferred langue, 

2 - open Archicad using your template, or download a template from the website, almost of us migrate tempaltes from older versions, resellers template  are useful for new users, 

3 - libraries also can be dowloaded from website, this will help in 2 things : lignter installers, and libraries are accessible for everyone especially when user works for foreign companies, .

 

this way, development and bug fixes will be focused on 1 installer, not 10, 

 

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Archicad strategy is to implement several disciplines, let's admit this, 

For users , Architects, engeneers, drafters, commands and disciplines should be seperated and organized in different way, so we don't feel abused with unecessary command, 

yes Archicad offer possibility to organise commands in the work environnment, but the saved commands layout will be a mess when upgrading to newt version wich contain new commands, 

why not,  from a buttons menu you can activate ad desactivate disciplines commands.

 

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You said in the webinar, Focus on design, Archicad tools are really good and that's why we stick to Archicad , BUT aren't fully baked, workarounds and illogic solutions are always there to disturb the workflow, think about new users, workarounds make them feel uncomftable, saying, " this simple situation needs a workaround, whatabout complex ones ?? " 

 

each tool have major / minor things to update, tweak , to get a good design toolbox for daily work, 

to attract users, Archicad should easily be able to help designing a residentiel or midscale projects without workarounds, this kind of project is where users start exploring the software, if it fails, users will start searching around for alternatives, 

make the product a complete solution for architects, 

 

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i think , Archicad 27 should be the " NO workarounds version "   ,make architects life easier, to focus on design , then you can go ahead for structural and MEP workflows, 

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I agree with everything you said.

mthd
Mentor

ArchiFrame definitely be a great addition to me rather than the many other additions that I simply don’t need or will never use in my line of work.

 

It is possible for GS to divide Archicad add ons into a suite for different user profiles as you have shown above.

 

I personally don’t need MEP modeling or a even a library part maker but others do.

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It's always going to be a difficult line to walk for GS. They are getting kicked for including MEP & Structural tools (with a price hike), yet if they delivered Archicad Light and started charging for any add-ons like rendering they would be kicked because such features should be "standard". I don't have Archiframe, I think I was put off by the fees. I am guessing a lot wouldn't pay for it as an add-on and others would object that it is a specialist engineering tool that isn't needed if it was included.

 

The simple solution is for GS to look at the Wishlist and deliver what the vast number of users need, not what marketing or others think they need to do to chase the rest of the market. They need to play to their strengths, which is delivering productivity tools to their architectural user base. 

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The main question to ask now: who are interested in designing structural elements or members and MEP with ArchiCAD? Most engineers I know are afraid of using them. Thus, it will take time for Graphisoft to build trust... The fundamental cause is that ArchiCAD is not taught in general and vocational colleges or in universities in North America for example.

 

Who will learn these new features if possible? Where? Who will ask for them? Who will use them? Maybe Graphisoft should start convincing the engineers located in Hungary and Germany, offering courses to colleges and universities based there to enable better learning that can be first validated by academic community. This process will be long!

 

In the meantime, the best strategy would be to develop the tools that architects and designers need in order to retain or attract them.

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mthd
Mentor

This is a very valid discussion and it’s correct to say that something is not right with the way Archicad is developing.

 

There definitely appears to be a break down in communication between us as users and the developers of the software. What I mean is, the current wish list system appears not to be working correctly as Rex has pointed out. Our wishes are not getting through to top or if they are, they maybe just being ignored ?

 

A purely suggestions part of the forum could prove to remedy the situation somewhat. The problem lies in that our wishes and suggestions are scattered all over the place on this forum. If you were the person assigned to gathering the wishes together like Laszlo Nagy is apparently the one assigned to do that on this forum, would you not be confused ? I certainly would. So this whole wish list system needs to be more carefully organized.

 

My suggestions would be to create a suggestion part of the forum with a poll like Rex and many others have asked for. Similar to what we had in the past. This time the suggestions part should be broken down into specific parts.

 

For example every single building element inside Archicad can be a separate part of the suggestions forum. Starting with slabs, then walls, then columns, and so on. We all write out our specifications of what we would like these tools to be able to do for us and then all of us give a star rating of how much we would like it to be included. Of course every member on the forum should be responsible and check the list once a week and to give their ratings. Otherwise it’s only just a few of us asking for improvements and we become the minority, and it becomes the who really cares scenario.

 

I think it would make Laszlo’s job a lot easier and make our communications with the developers a lot clearer. Currently it’s too distorted and grainy and it’s not really clear enough what is actually being asked for by the us as the users.

 

Architects are very good organizers so you guys need to make our suggestions very specific and clearly organized for the developers to understand and hopefully implement the priories among those many suggestions.

 

Please listen carefully to us all.

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Excellent suggestion. It seems to me that our suggestions and proposals do not reach the top. I found a bug in the GDL element, this same bug is in AC 25 and AC 26, and it hasn't been fixed yet, so I don't think our suggestions are coming to the right address. Something needs to be done to make communication between users and developers better.

Everything you said is correct and I agree with it. We need better tools if they want to keep us with them.

It seems the only people from GS who read this are forum moderators. However much feedback makes it past them is undeniably little. I know Laszlo sometimes mentions forwarding things to R&D or whomever, but it's few and far between, so it's clear there is a filter that is next to impossible to pass through. Which is sad when you think of all the bugs mentioned here, and they perpetuate version after version after version.. Based off of the (frankly) lackluster (putting it nicely) version upgrades over the last four versions or so, it is clear that this community board is not much more than a closed forum that no one who can change policies or affect upgrades reads more than sparingly.

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Laszlo Nagy
Community Admin
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I write a summary every week and I send it to dozens of recipients within Graphisoft. I try to cover everything that happens on the forum, including important discussions (e.g., feedback to the Roadmap), reported bugs/issues, wishes, tips. So, I would say that everyone that should be informed about what is happening in the Graphisoft Community receives this information regularly. What I want to say with this is that what you guys discuss in these forums DOES reach the relevant people at Graphisoft.

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Things would definitely get through to administration about our discussions and they would care how the product is being perceived by us as its users. Realistically they would know what bugs need to be fixed and also what they do to prioritise and what further developments are needed with Archicad. Just because something we want is not happening just yet, doesn’t mean that it is actually forgotten. It may very well be not that urgent yet.

 

I can imagine a huge list of work and most of all, a lot of reading that I would hate doing. I couldn’t be bothered reading the whole forum because it wouldn’t be practical or beneficial for me to do so.

 

Regarding a wish list request, they found it good at Chief Talk not to make a request till you have done thorough research and then asked your question on the forum. Then if you didn’t get your problem resolved and you wanted to make a suggestion, to do so. I can tell that these guys on here hardly need to do that because most of them are very professional and know the software really well and what it can and can’t do.

 

You guys on this forum and administration ought to be commended for how you run things in such a professional manner. I feel more comfortable to ask my questions over here than I did on other forums.

 

All good.

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