2) The ability to have multiple ceiling types within a room.I'm simply pointing out that any ceiling function would need to accommotate multiple ceiling types within a room. Most likely, it would have to relate to the Zone bounding the room, in order to really "associate" with the room.
In what way would like the association between a ceiling and a room to be expressed? Or are you simply pointing out that a solution which draws only one ceiling in a room is inadequate?
5) The ability to turn much of this on and off with viewsets/display options.To me, 5 and 6 were tightly related. If you are going to have tons of construction data, as well as a 2D plan view, there would have to be a level of visibility and editability.
Some means of changing the appearance of the ceiling can easily be added, but it wouldn't work as fast as built-in display options. I don't know of a way of storing the setting with a view set either (haven't explored that yet).
6) The ability to see ceiling construction (bracing, grid pieces, tile profiles) in section views
There are ways to achieve this, but there are wider issues to consider. First, this level of detail might cripple ArchiCAD's performance. Second, the ceiling needs to behave as a whole in some respects, but making it work sensibly from a construction viewpoint will almost certainly require fine-tuning of individual components. We have a solution for this in FrameWright, but it may not entirely suit this problem.
TomWaltz wrote:The Zone is not enough.
I'm simply pointing out that any ceiling function would need to accommotate multiple ceiling types within a room. Most likely, it would have to relate to the Zone bounding the room, in order to really "associate" with the room.
A ceiling can also have multiple levels, bulkheads, various materials, corniches, any number of horizontal and vertical AC vents (still have to see a horizontal one in any of the libraries), canbe curved and wavy and ... the sky is the limit.I totally agree. A ceiling Add-on needs a LOT of functionality.
From a user's point of view, I would like to see a variety, practically limitless (user definable components, modules ?) in combination.
I will post some of the ceilings if you want to get the idea?
TomWaltz wrote:In fact, the basic setup of the existing Ceiling wizard is quite OK; BUT, it is pretty obvious that there was not enough architectural feedback, and that only the European way of office building (simple, flat, clean) was considered.
I was just thinking that Zones would be a good way of defining the "outer limits" of the room, so perhaps it could tie in to the Finish Schedule. I'm in the earilest stages of pre-design, so I'm just kicking out ideas,
I was thinking of trying to develop this in levels, starting with the simplest (creating a simple Reflected Ceiling Plan) and progressing to the most complex (cathedral ceilings with exposed trusses and soffits around the edge, with vertical vents and a helical room, the construction of which show up in section).
Fabrizio wrote:Why am I not surprised?
BTW we are going to release a ceiling add-on: ArchiPanel.
Fabrizio wrote:No problem, will do ...
Could you be so kind to send me some examples illustrating what you mean? This should be the right time to implement new features or to modifying the existing ones...