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Erika Epstein
Newcomer
Just received notification that Snow Leopard is out on Friday.

This will be my first mac OS upgrade and I am wondering what is involved? Do I order it, or wait a month or more? Any tips?

Will I have to upgrade other software?
Go ahead, laugh at the newbie to mac
Erika
Architect, Consultant
MacBook Pro Retina, 15-inch Yosemite 2.8 GHz Intel Core i7 16 GB 1600 MHz DDR3
Mac OSX 10.11.1
AC5-18
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Thomas Holm
Booster
Erika,
it seems Apple have learnt some from previous releases, since they're talking about simplified installation etc, but you never know.
- The upgrade from Tiger (10.4) to Leopard (10.5) broke many backs because of new permissions issues.
- The ATI X1600 OpenGL graphics issue that plagued a lot of us Archicad users was introduced with 10.5 and not fixed until 10.5.7.

So: The cautious user waits until Apple releases 10.6.1 before installing. Usually the worst bugs are fixed in this first maintenance release. Typically you'll have to wait a month or so.

If you like, follow Macfixit to see what happens. (But I don't recommend their practice of downgrading parts of system releases when issues arise - that's bound to give you even more problems)

And, if you're using PPC-only software (like MS Office 2004) that needs the PPC emulator Rosetta, you will have to install that consciously with 10.6, it's not automatic anymore.

Archicad 12 isn't certified for Snow Leopard, but should work anyway, AFAIK. I hope AC13 will be tested for it.
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whatever
Newcomer
Personally I would never upgrade my OS shortly after it is out. I kept using Tiger for months after leopard was out. till most of the programs that I use on daily bases confirmed its compatibility with leopard.
In the end of the day.. its cool to have the latest OS. but it is essential to have my programs running !

Have to say its the same with windows ... I remember staying with Win98 for ages after XP was released , the same with XP when "Pizza" was out .. actually many are still preferring XP.
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Ralph Wessel
Advocate
Erika wrote:
Just received notification that Snow Leopard is out on Friday.
This will be my first mac OS upgrade and I am wondering what is involved? Do I order it, or wait a month or more? Any tips?
Will I have to upgrade other software?
My experience of Apple's system updates is very positive, but I always take precautionary measures to avoid the possibility of disaster. I wait at least a week to read the experiences of early adopters. Other safety measures include:
  • 1) Make a full backup (I use Time Machine, which has rescued me once from a total hard drive failure)
    2) Verify the integrity of your hard drive with Disk Utility
    3) Repair permissions with Disk Utility
Reports I've read indicate excellent compatibility with existing applications. Again, my own experience is that Apple always provides a very smooth upgrade path.
Ralph Wessel BArch

Eduardo Rolon
Moderator
Adding to Ralph's recommendation I would clone my HD to an external hard disk using either carbon copy cloner (free) or SuperDuper! (the one I use) and verify that I can boot from the external before upgrading.
eduardo rolón AIA NCARB
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OS X 10.XX latest
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Rakela Raul
Newcomer
Go ahead, laugh at the newbie to mac
make it two !! i was wondering the same..thx for asking !!

i made an image using 'disk utility'......hav'g a clone sounds better
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Eduardo Rolon
Moderator
The nice thing about a clone with a previous system is that you can choose from which installation to boot from. Even with the point updates I always clone my HD before updating just in case.
eduardo rolón AIA NCARB
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Erika Epstein
Newcomer
Thank you everyone!
Erika
Architect, Consultant
MacBook Pro Retina, 15-inch Yosemite 2.8 GHz Intel Core i7 16 GB 1600 MHz DDR3
Mac OSX 10.11.1
AC5-18
Onuma System

"Implementing Successful Building Information Modeling"

Rakela Raul
Newcomer
The nice thing about a clone with a previous system is that you can choose from which installation to boot from. Even with the point updates I always clone my HD before updating just in case.
thx Eduardo / All & Erika !! im going that route now.....the speed offered by snow is too luring

corrected !!
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Eduardo Rolon
Moderator
Remember to Boot from the clone to test that it works before installing SL in your main HD.

After testing disconnect your clone from your Mac before installing SL.

Another recommended item is to disconnect all USB and FW devices prior to install (including your TM backUp) just leave your keyboard and mouse.
eduardo rolón AIA NCARB
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AC25 US/INT -> AC08

Rakela Raul
Newcomer
please stop !!!

it was scary enough when i burned the image !!

thx alot
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Ralph Wessel
Advocate
ejrolon wrote:
The nice thing about a clone with a previous system is that you can choose from which installation to boot from. Even with the point updates I always clone my HD before updating just in case.
The advantages of using Time Machine (built into Leopard) are:
  • 1) It's really easy to use - switch it on and it 'just works'.
    2) It provides constant backups of your work, every hour, all day, every day. It also keeps different versions, so you can revert to an earlier version of a document modified multiple times (and step through all the versions to select the one you want).
    3) You can easily restore a single file, an older version of a file, or the entire drive contents. In many cases it works interactively with other applications, e.g. Address Book, so you can search for and preview older data before restoring it.
Just boot from the original installation DVD to restore the drive if the original is no longer bootable. Most (all?) other backup solutions require far more work and aren't nearly intuitive, which often means users fail to implement it or don't use it frequently enough. I highly recommend Time Machine to avoid these problems.
Ralph Wessel BArch

Eduardo Rolon
Moderator
Ralph,

I use both, Time Machine for constant backups + version control and Superduper once a week to clone the HD.

The reason is that if my principal HD (the one that has the applications and OS) crashes I can boot up from the clone and finish what I am doing without having to wait for TM to restore my HD, this can save a lot of time.

This also means that 3 HD have to fail in order for me to loose data.
eduardo rolón AIA NCARB
Another of the forum moderators.
Macbook Pro 2.4 i9 32GB ram
OS X 10.XX latest
AC25 US/INT -> AC08

Ralph Wessel
Advocate
ejrolon wrote:
I use both, Time Machine for constant backups + version control and Superduper once a week to clone the HD.
That's definitely best practice (if you add off-site copies to prevent total loss in the event of a serious fire). My comments were aimed more at people who aren't backing up regularly. There are many who just haven't got around to it simply because it seems too daunting, and Time Machine is a perfect way for them to start.
Ralph Wessel BArch

Rakela Raul
Newcomer
There are many who just haven't got around to it simply because it seems too daunting,
hey !!
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Lousa
Newcomer
Any experience on Snow Leopard with AC 12?

Rafal SLEK
Participant
Should be faster - I'll check it tommorrow after purchase 🙂
MacBook Pro Retina/2.9 GHz/Intel Core i7/16GB RAM/Radeon Pro 460 4GB/MacOS 10.13.2/Win10 64+/ArchiCAD 21 INT+POL/Maxwell Render 4

Lousa
Newcomer
Rafal wrote:
Should be faster - I'll check it tommorrow after purchase 🙂
Please let us know!

Aaron Bourgoin
Booster
Big spread on Snow Leopard at MacWorld this morning: http://www.macworld.com/article/142459/2009/08/snow_leopard.html?lsrc=twt_jsnell

Will GS Technical Team offer a comment on how OpenCL and Grand Central - two key pieces of under-the-hood technology in Snow Leopard - will effect speed in the current version of ArchiCAD and what the impact of its implementation in future versions of ArchiCAD will be. In theory, this should be HUGE!
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Drini
Newcomer
I hope that it will work as a charm... logically it should!

But anyhow, i suspect that in about 2-3 month we'll hear of the new version ArchiCAD 13, and of course we'll have no doubts about AC in SL.

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