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Anonymous
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Hi all,

I have been informed about Rhino.Inside and apparently you can directly use Rhino inside Revit and other products. I was wondering if such tool will be available inside ArchiCAD too?

Best regards,

Frank
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leceta
Expert
Apparently, this is in principle restricted to software developed under .Net framework (Archicad is not).

This was the official version. But last weeks, they have implemented rhinoinside under Unreal, wich isn't developed under .Net framework. So there is some hope to see RhinoInside with archicad, but I wouldnt be too enthuasiatic about this.

By the other hand, McNeel is developing other API's that integrate some Rhinocommon functionalities for CPython (also available for Javascript), but is quite limited. But... They also have RhinoCompute, which is a service accessible via Rest API that offer a more complete set of Rhinocommon goodies. which happens to be accesible via CPython...

Let's wait Python for archicad be released and then lets try all this McNeel technology!

EDIT: I just realized that python addon is already available! https://archicadapi.graphisoft.com/experimental-python-add-on-for-archicad23

leceta
Expert
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leceta
Expert
will only work on .net host applications?

Yes, only .NET (at least for now). That doesn’t stop you from hosting .NET in your own native application which is exactly what Rhino.exe does
https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/rhino-inside/68564/15?u=aitorleceta

leceta
Expert

Anonymous
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Greetings to all!

I am seeing a very fast paced development by McNeel of Rhino.Inside, their tool to run Rhino and Grasshopper inside a third application memory space, mainly Rhino.Inside Revit, and wonder, is the Grasshopper-ARCHICAD connection part of this development, or is it a total different approach developed just by Graphisoft?

Why isn't Mcneel working in this connection?

For those who are not familiar with Rhino.Inside Revit, check the link below. It looks to me it is a more complete solution than the Grasshopper-ARCHICAD connection.

https://wiki.mcneel.com/rhino/inside/revit/homepage

leceta
Expert
its a independent development.

there is a post with the same exact issue in the forum. Let me share the link to the post
https://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=68012

Anonymous
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Thanks! And sorry for overcrowding this.

Just a heads up, it seems that Rhino.Inside Archicad was announced in an event in Oslo by a Mcneel person.
I don't know if they are a member of the forum, so I am just going to link the post here:

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/frodesaltkjelvik_grasshopper-rhino3d-mcneel-activity-6632940625320820...

Laszlo Nagy
Community Admin
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Hmm, that is interesting.
Do you know for a fact that he specifically said that Rhion.Inside ARCHICAD is coming?
Or do you speculate that it is coming based on the #graphisoft and #archicad hashtags present in the LinkedIn post?
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Karl Ottenstein
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leceta wrote:
its a independent development.

there is a post with the same exact issue in the forum. Let me share the link to the post
https://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=68012
Thanks, Leceta. I've merged the new posts into that one.
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Anonymous
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LaszloNagy wrote:
Hmm, that is interesting.
Do you know for a fact that he specifically said that Rhion.Inside ARCHICAD is coming?
Or do you speculate that it is coming based on the #graphisoft and #archicad hashtags present in the LinkedIn post?

Not the hashtags, but one of the photos show this slide:
https://media-exp1.licdn.com/dms/image/C4E22AQEWnKccqxn0lw/feedshare-shrink_2048_1536/0?e=1584576000&v=beta&t=DGR4JGU8aNHdPeBdJ0_BgURrjL4LC9grmumS51yTIyk

Laszlo Nagy
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OK, thanks for the image.
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Anonymous
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Well, just confirmed in Rhino.Inside discourse, that there is NO plans for Rhino.Inside Archicad

https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/rhino-inside-archicad/93421/8

TMA_80
Contributor
No ArchiCAD signs there:
http://www.aecbytes.com/feature/2020/Rhino-Inside-Revit.html

Maybe it means that the GS connection is already Good enough !
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Anonymous
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I certainly hope that is not the case, since current connection lacks soooo many functionality. For example, one can not access parameters of the object nor change them, only design new elements. We need tools which would speed up "information" part of the bim workflow.

runxel
Mentor
Petar.Pejic wrote:
I certainly hope that is not the case, since current connection lacks soooo many functionality. For example, one can not access parameters of the object nor change them, only design new elements. We need tools which would speed up "information" part of the bim workflow.
I think they already work on making the connection truly bi-directional. Just seems to be a bigger task.
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Laszlo Nagy
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runxel wrote:
I think they already work on making the connection truly bi-directional. Just seems to be a bigger task.

Could you share the source of that information with us? I would be interested to know, I myself have not heard of anything like this but would be happy to hear that such plans exist.
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runxel
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LaszloNagy wrote:
Could you share the source of that information with us? I would be interested to know, I myself have not heard of anything like this but would be happy to hear that such plans exist.
Well, to be honest this is just what I expected.
It would harm this ecosystem, if they wouldn't work on that...
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Anonymous
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I agree. It is strange that graphisoft has declared a collaboration with mcneel years ago, and that connection is still rough and lacks in basic functionality, while revit decided to go with own visual programming solution (dynamo). All of the sudden, rhino and grasshopper are supported inside revit via rhino.inside while archicad is stuck with its previous solution. Maybe the right way to go was to enable rhino inside archicad as well, instead of developing new software connection. Rhino.inside looks like a way more elegant solution to me (I am not software engineer, so I do not know the background code necessary to run it).
It would be really nice if we could get some response from graphisoft what is the plan regarding rhino and grasshopper integration.

leceta
Expert
graphisoft has declared a collaboration with McNeel
I always had thought that this was a unilateral declaration, never heard anything of the kind from the other part. After McNeel made rhino.inside public in late 2018, it was evident to me that this has been commercial propaganda, a fiction. That all development effort has been done exclusively from the Graphisoft part. Otherwise, what was concretely the part of McNeel on this "collaboration"? technical assistance? The same/similar technical assistance that I can have as McNeel customer??

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