Going back to Revit vs Archicad
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2006-06-26 02:56 AM
Can somebody tell me if ArchiCad 10 is supported by the new Apple-Intel Technology and the new OSx ? So I can switch now.
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2006-06-26 03:43 AM
sylvain wrote:AC9 and the original AC10 release do not support MacIntel at all. There is an Archicad 10 MacIntel version in testing currently. My reseller tells me it's due in July.
I am working on Revit since 2003 ( version 5.0), it is easy to see that ArchiCad is way in front. compability they will tell you... Thanks to Revit version 9.0, now it is easier to <translate> your work in Autocad, for <the others>. Anyway, Autodesk's product are compatible with each other only in <our minds> they are selling you < Autodesk >
Can somebody tell me if ArchiCad 10 is supported by the new Apple-Intel Technology and the new OSx ? So I can switch now.
If you are running Windows on the MacIntel, I understand the Windows version of AC10 runs quite well.
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2006-06-29 08:50 AM
TomWaltz wrote:While not officially supported, AC9 and 10 both run quite well under Rosetta (10 is a bit slower but I am using it with no difficulty for real work). I can recall only two crashes with AC10 on my MacBook Pro and none in AC9. I am constrained from reporting about the Mactel beta - but I think it's safe for me to say that you have nothing to worry about.
AC9 and the original AC10 release do not support MacIntel at all. There is an Archicad 10 MacIntel version in testing currently. My reseller tells me it's due in July.
If you are running Windows on the MacIntel, I understand the Windows version of AC10 runs quite well.
And, yes, both versions run well in WinXP on the Mactel.
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2006-06-29 09:23 PM
I just went to the latest Autodesk marketing show for Revit 9. Revit has come a long way since it's introduction. But it still has a way to go to match ArchiCAD as a complete solution package.
I did notice some nice new features that Revit 9 now has that I'd really like ArchiCAD to implement. One big feature is their "obscure element option" for 3D detailing (for showing hidden lines). Revit also seems to handle the automatic sheet drawing references much better than AC (more automatic - less set-up/work).
If anyone thinks that "Teamwork" is a hard to use... Try sharing a project file in Revit - talk about a nightmare! The presenters even had to do some back-peddling to defend the logic.
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2006-06-30 05:24 AM
AC V6 to V18 - RVT V11 to V16
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2006-07-13 07:55 AM
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2006-07-13 06:22 PM
"sylvain" wrote:
I went recently to a <smoke show> of Archicad. Unfortunately it was a disaster too.
C'mon give the guys a break. There is a lot to learn with this one, If your show was a disaster it was probably due to just being so new in the market. Typically the dealers don't get their hands on it till a week before it's release.
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2006-07-13 06:32 PM
sylvain wrote:In Teamwork one can marquee an empty space not associated with the model and not have to reserve a layer or ask permissions... just send and receive. The existing model can not be edited with this method...but I like that especially if it is ready to embellish w/ dims and notes.
Patience my friend. Teamwork in Archicad looks easier and more logical. Anyway, I am very anxious to switch to Archicad...
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2006-08-22 01:52 AM
Having not used Teamwork -- and not completely understanding how it works -- perhaps someone would like to describe how it works to an AC alumni user (me). Esp with regards to all the files that are interacting on the workstation, and the server.
With regards to Revit: sylvain is correct. All Revit files start as single user files. Clicking the worksets button creates worksets in the current open file; the next save after this creates the central file. You copy the central file to your hard drive; that's the local file. You work on the local file, and click the "Save to Central" button to update the central file and get updates in the central file that you don't have.
Worksets that contain 3D objects are named by the user -- Exterior shell, Interior Partitions, Structure, etc. When a user selects an object -- wall, dimension, whatever -- Revit immediately contacts the central file to see if the object is available, if so you can edit it, if not, it tells you who's got it signed out and you can at that point ask them to hand over control through the Editing Requests dialog box.
Worksets aren't hard -- it's the collaborative process that has all these indepedent CAD users unglued. You have to work together, and sometimes people don't like that.
As for files, there's the local and central files, and that's it. On megaprojects you can link files together but walls from linked files don't clean up with walls in the host file. So you got us beat there
If someone wouldn't mind doing a desktop share over the phone one day, we could have a good look at each other's software and take notes, and report back to the users with what we find. A lot of the information circulating on these (and AUGIs forums) is because the posters don't really know how The Other Program works. So I'd prefer to talk to a knowledgable AC user -- no resellers! I'm currently working on contract for a number of parties -- including the reseller in my sig, so I'm only interested in getting and giving the straight goods.
Any takers? I got some huuuuge projects I could show, and some midsize projects too.
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2006-08-22 04:47 AM