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walls

Anonymous
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What is the better practice? walls that break at floors or walls that run footer to roof?
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Karl Ottenstein
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Best rule of thumb is to model as you would build...
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AC 26 USA and earlier   •   macOS Ventura 13.4, MacBook Pro M2 Max 12CPU/30GPU cores, 32GB

Anonymous
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Karl wrote:
Best rule of thumb is to model as you would build...
Hi, related questions were asked here http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?p=179572 and I received slightly different answers (different question, similar issue). I would far prefer to follow Karl's rule of thumb, but other users suggested that AC is better equipped to handle one wall/one floor.

I have been trying to follow that suggestion and I have made it work, but it is definitely not "modeling as you would build"

Karl Ottenstein
Moderator
I'm confused, Paul. I read the posts in the other thread from Matthew, Miguel and Erika and we all seem to be saying the same thing: generally model as you build (more or less).

You mention a five story wall - perhaps this is masonry or a multi-pour concrete wall. You might model that as a single wall. If it is more convenient, you might model it as 5 walls, one per story. But, we wouldn't truly model as it is built (e.g., a short wall corresponding to each max concrete pour) - although a construction model would do so.

There are other issues related to multi-story walls. One is the easy insertion of windows/openings that span multiple stories. A negative relates to reporting window sill/header heights. Neither of the wall base or story zero level may give exactly the number you want for your marker / schedule. A plus relates to canted or otherwise complexly shaped walls since you don't have to try to piece them together - and the Floor Plan Cut Plane gives you a reasonable plan representation. (So, even if such a wall - for example an Auditorium wall - is built in stages, we'd model it as a single wall in AC for ease of modeling.)

No approach is right 100% of the time - need to mix and match based on circumstances and what produces usable, modifiable drawings that fastest IMHO.

Cheers,
Karl
One of the forum moderators
AC 26 USA and earlier   •   macOS Ventura 13.4, MacBook Pro M2 Max 12CPU/30GPU cores, 32GB

Anonymous
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Karl wrote:
I'm confused, Paul. I read the posts in the other thread from Matthew, Miguel and Erika and we all seem to be saying the same thing: generally model as you build (more or less)...Karl
Hi Karl, thanks for your considered reply, I certainly agree that the advice is "model as you build", though there appear to be some complexities with multi story (yes, masonry) walls. In any case, for me it's a matter of learning to use AC better. Thanks again,

Paul

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