Is it best work from standard or obtain a prepared template?

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2014-08-24 12:16 AM
2014-08-24
12:16 AM
Dennis Hellyar
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2014-08-25 04:45 AM
2014-08-25
04:45 AM
I think the U.S. out-of-the-box "template" is best described as ...
something you would need to scrape off the bottom of your shoe,
if you stepped on it sitting in the grass.
Check out Jared's template here:
SHOEGNOME
something you would need to scrape off the bottom of your shoe,
if you stepped on it sitting in the grass.
Check out Jared's template here:
SHOEGNOME
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2014-08-25 10:56 PM
2014-08-25
10:56 PM
OK thanks for the reply. This would be a US template and I guess would follow US standards in terms layers, units, etc. Do you think the benefits of this outweigh the fact these standards would be foreign to me? I sought some advice from a licensed graphisoft agent here and they thought I should stick to AC v18 UK standard template. Any thoughts?
Dennis Hellyar

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2014-08-25 11:31 PM
2014-08-25
11:31 PM
I don't see any US standards in the Shoegnome template. But, it is oriented towards the US library and Imperial measurements as would be the Bobrow template, too, I assume.
I've not seen the UK template... while I agree about the US out-of-box-template, it is possible that the UK one isn't as bad.
Also: any template made before 18 will NOT have the proper Cinerender surfaces or scenes set up. Another thing to consider.
I've not seen the UK template... while I agree about the US out-of-box-template, it is possible that the UK one isn't as bad.
Also: any template made before 18 will NOT have the proper Cinerender surfaces or scenes set up. Another thing to consider.
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2014-08-25 11:55 PM
2014-08-25
11:55 PM
The shoegnome template is based on v17. V17 standard template was identical across us and uk, indeed the world over.
Shoegnome's v18 template is not available yet as far as I know.
Ac v18 standard template is available in different versions - uk and us. I wonder though if v18 uk would still be regarded by you guys in the same way you see v17 standard.
Would be useful to see an experienced uk user's take on this.
Shoegnome's v18 template is not available yet as far as I know.
Ac v18 standard template is available in different versions - uk and us. I wonder though if v18 uk would still be regarded by you guys in the same way you see v17 standard.
Would be useful to see an experienced uk user's take on this.
Dennis Hellyar

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2014-08-26 12:07 AM
2014-08-26
12:07 AM
You would be better off with a template that is at least based off the standard UK template so that all the fills, linetypes, surfaces and building materials aligned with the UK ArchiCAD 18 library, translators, etc.
Any template not built using exact AC18 default attributes runs the risk of errors. And I doubt that Eric or Jared have upgraded theirs yet.
I'd recommend sticking with the default UK one or having one custom built to meet your needs.
Cheers,
Link.
Any template not built using exact AC18 default attributes runs the risk of errors. And I doubt that Eric or Jared have upgraded theirs yet.
I'd recommend sticking with the default UK one or having one custom built to meet your needs.
Cheers,
Link.

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2014-08-26 12:14 AM
2014-08-26
12:14 AM
Ok thanks for that. Not likely to have something built for the moment but it's clear enough I should stick with ac v18 standard for now until a uk equivalent to jared or Eric's comes along.

Dennis Hellyar

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2014-08-27 02:48 PM
2014-08-27
02:48 PM
Dennis,
I would get a local to assist you to build your template. Someone that knows the local standards. The generic templates will get you most of the way there and I believe that for 90% of ArchiCAD users the ones on the net will give you the leg up you need, but if you want a system to meet all of your practices needs then invest in a custom template.
Nathan.
I would get a local to assist you to build your template. Someone that knows the local standards. The generic templates will get you most of the way there and I believe that for 90% of ArchiCAD users the ones on the net will give you the leg up you need, but if you want a system to meet all of your practices needs then invest in a custom template.
Nathan.
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2014-08-28 10:46 PM
2014-08-28
10:46 PM
Nathan - thanks for that.
It's that 90% thing that I was thinking myself - getting most of the way there with templates available on the net, sooner than sticking with the UK standard v18 template.
But I get the impression from Link, and some others that using a 'foreign' template will lead to problems...better to stick with UK v18 STD.
The best alternative I could find is someone as generous as say Jared and Eric B, with their free or at least inexpensive templates, from the UK, using v18.
That may be a tall order!
Getting a custom template built is certainly tall for us at the moment!!
I think v18 standard will have to suffice for the moment.
Dennis
It's that 90% thing that I was thinking myself - getting most of the way there with templates available on the net, sooner than sticking with the UK standard v18 template.
But I get the impression from Link, and some others that using a 'foreign' template will lead to problems...better to stick with UK v18 STD.
The best alternative I could find is someone as generous as say Jared and Eric B, with their free or at least inexpensive templates, from the UK, using v18.
That may be a tall order!
Getting a custom template built is certainly tall for us at the moment!!
I think v18 standard will have to suffice for the moment.
Dennis
Dennis Hellyar