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macOS 12 Monterey

Norbert Kucsma
Graphisoft
Graphisoft

 

monterey icon.pngApple released the new macOS 12 Monterey on 25th October 2021.

Archicad 25 is compatible from the 2nd Update (40xx build) and Archicad 24 is compatible from the 5th Update (70xx build).

Please note that Archicad 23 and earlier versions are not compatible with the next-generation operating system.

Important Note

The 5th Update (70xx build) of Archicad 24 is available for the majority of languages. The remaining versions are in progress.

The most recent Monterey 12.3 build has a new compatibility issue. We strongly advise postponing the macOS 12.3 update until further notice. For more information please read this article.

 

The fixes for the Monterey 12.3 issues are part of Archicad 25 Update 5010, which has been released for English (AUS, INT, NZE, UKI, USA) and German (GER, AUT) speaking language versions. The automatic Check for Updates is enabled for these languages and the packages are available on our Downloads site. For more information please read this article.


General advice

MacOS and Archicad general workflow.

Upgrade checklist
  • Study macOS Monterey articles for any known issues, difficulties
  • Back up all of your data, including Archicad / BIMcloud specific data before upgrading the operating system. 
  • Upload all Software keys to the License Pool
  • Return all borrowed licenses before upgrading the OS
  • Allow yourself enough time for the upgrade, do not upgrade the OS close to a deadline
  • Install/update macOS Monterey.
  • Install Archicad.
  • Install all updates for the new operating system
  • Install all updates for GRAPHISOFT products
  • Install the macOS Monterey compatible protection key driver
  • Test Archicad and the BIMcloud

Hardware:

Performance review with M1

Performance review with M1 Pro and M1 Max


Archicad compatibility by different versions

Supported versions

  • Archicad 25 Update 2 (40xx build) and Archicad 25 Solo Update 2 (40xx build)
  • Archicad 24 Update 5 (70xx build) and Archicad 24 Solo Update 5 (70xx build)

Download the latest version of Archicad

Supported and not compatible versions (Updates will be released to fix new compatibility issues)

  • Archicad 25 30xx build and Archicad 25 Solo 30xx build
  • Archicad 24 Update 4 (60xx build) and earlier versions Archicad 24 Solo Update 4 (60xx build) and earlier versions

 Not supported and not compatible versions (Updates are not released to fix new compatibility issues)

  • Archicad 23 and Archicad 23 Solo
  • Archicad 22 and Archicad 22 Solo
  • Archicad 21 and Archicad 21 Solo
  • Archicad 20 and Archicad 20 Solo
  • Archicad 19 and Archicad 19 Solo
  • Archicad 15-18

Not compatible versions

Note: For Archicad 10 File Converter, the last compatible OS is 10.14 Mojave. For Archicad 7.0 and 9 File Converter, they cannot run on Mac OS X 10.7 or newer.

Archicad STAR(T) Edition

  • Archicad SE 2022:  Compatible
  • Archicad SE 2021:  Not Compatible, can be used with the limitation of this defect.
  • Archicad SE 2015-2020: Not Compatible, can be installed
  • Archicad SE 2015 or older: Not Compatible, can not be installed

BIMcloud

No critical issues were found so far, but please avoid the OS update until further notice. Make sure your computer meets the system requirements, please visit: BIMcloud Downloads – Graphisoft


BIMx Desktop Viewer

We support the latest update of BIMx Desktop Viewer, which is version 2021.3441, and available from here: BIMx Desktop Viewer - Graphisoft


Known issues

Archicad crashes when the application is closed

Affected version(s): All Archicad version(s) | Severity: Fixed in an update | ID: DEF-5482

Issue

Archicad crashes when closing the application due to a macOS 12 Monterey compatibility issue. This problem does not affect the migrated or new projects, these files can be saved and used without further issues.

Solution

This bug is already fixed in:

  • Archicad 25 Update 2 (40xx build) and Archicad 25 Solo Update 2 (40xx build)
  • Archicad 24 Update 5 (70xx build) and Archicad 24 Solo Update 5 (70xx build)
Archicad crashes during the installation

Affected version(s): All Archicad version(s) | Severity: Fixed in an update | ID: DEF-6395

Issue

The Archicad Bug Reporter appears during the installation process. This bug does not affect the usability of Archicad after the installation. 

Solution

The issue does not happen after installing:

  • Archicad 25 Update 2 (40xx build) and Archicad 25 Solo Update 2 (40xx build)
  • Archicad 24 Update 5 (70xx build) and Archicad 24 Solo Update 5 (70xx build)
Hard to distinguish buttons in activated state

Affected version(s): All Archicad version(s) | Severity: cosmetic issue | ID: DEF-5515

Issue

Highlights are in the same color as defined under system preferences/general/highlight color instead of grey.

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Solution

This bug is already fixed in:

  • Archicad 25 Update 3 (50xx build) and Archicad 25 Solo Update 3 (50xx build)

We are planning to fix this issue in:

  • Archicad 26 (30xx build) and Archicad 26 Solo (30xx build)
Missing icons from menu in Archicad 24

Affected version(s):  Archicad 24 and earlier version(s) | Severity: Fixed in an update

Issue

There are no icons in the menu items of the Main menu and of the Context menu on macOS 12.

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Solution

This bug is already fixed in:

  • Archicad 24 Update 4 (60xx build) and Archicad 24 Solo Update 4 (60xx build)
  • Archicad 25 (30xx build) and Archicad 25 Solo (30xx build)
Open and Save Dialog can not be resized

Affected version(s): All Archicad version(s) | Severity: medium | ID: DEF-5516

Issue

The size of the Open and Save dialog can not be reduced properly.

Workaround

  • The Open dialog resize issue is solved by modifying the dialog size of the Publishing Properties after opening a project.  Its browse for path tab can be resized and this directly affects the size of the Open dialog.
  • For the Save As dialog use the Print -> Save as PDF option. The appearing window is editable, which will decrease the size of the Save as dialog as well. These workarounds are applicable to Archicad 24 and Archicad 25.

Solution

This bug is already fixed in:

  • Archicad 25 Update 3 (50xx build) and Archicad 25 Solo Update 3 (50xx build)

We are planning to fix this issue in:

  • Archicad 26  and Archicad 26 Solo
Archicad crashes when closing a tab on the Tab Bar

Affected version(s): All Archicad version(s) | Severity: critical | ID: DEF-8186

Issue

Archicad crashes if users close a tab using the X icon, or hover the mouse over this icon.

Workaround

  • Hide the Tab Bar by opening Windows menu > Hide Tab Bar, then navigate using the Navigator or Organizer.
  • Without hiding the Tab Bar, we can cycle between the tabs using Ctrl + Tab hotkey (or via the Windows menu). To close the current tab, use Cmd + W hotkey. To close all other tabs, open the Windows menu and select Close All Other Tabs and Windows.

Solution

This bug is fixed in the main language versions. For more information please read this article.

 

We will keep this article updated with any news, fixes, workarounds, issues, or limitations as we continue using macOS 12 Monterey.

Comments
peterlueftner
Participant

Hi,

Wehen will the update 7xxx for AC24 be Release?

Norbert Kucsma
Graphisoft
Graphisoft

Hi,

 

The release of Archicad 24 Update 5 (70xx build) is expected in February 2022.

 

Kind regs,

Norbert Kucsma

 

Technical Support Engineer, Technical Support Team
GRAPHISOFT SE, Budapest

Eduardo Rolon
Moderator

There is another wrinkle to the "Open Dialog not resizing" in that on the second file you open with the command the Open Window expands horizontally until you cannot see the "ok" and "cancel" buttons.

This persists on quit and the only work around I find is to edit the preference file for 25.

peterlueftner
Participant

Hi

its very disappointing that ac24 will work With Monterey Not before february 22!

many of our co-workers still work with 24 and therefore we also habe to do so in teamwork-Environment.

we Need a second pc with big sur or windows.

why will 24 be adapted to monterey so Late?

thats no good customer-Service!

BIMadmin80
Participant

Agreed. Environments using Apple computers and AC24 won't be able to purchase new laptops for several months. This may be a complete show stopper for growing environments.

 

Graphisoft's decision to support only 24 and 25 in Monterey is also disappointing. Not every environment can update in such a fast pace taking into consideration multi-office projects, all the bugs in Archicad and all other software that has to also run on the same computers.

Chris Grantham
Enthusiast

@peterlueftner and. @BIMadmin80 I have done some testing over the weekend with a new Macbook Pro and have been able to work just fine on projects as far back as 22.  Yes, you do get the crash on quit, but the integrity of the file does not seem to be compromised.  As a workaround, I would close or leave the project before quitting the program.  On 22 I do get some of the weird graphical UI glitches, but not much different from what I was getting in Big Sur.  I know it's not ideal, but at least it's workable?

 

BIMadmin80
Participant

That's encouraging. At least it's somewhat usable unlike 22 before hotfix 6025 on Catalina.

Sinisa Lazarevic
Participant

Finding out that AC24 update is scheduled for February is almost making it irrelevant. Comes June we will have new Apple WDC and new OSX announcement. Might as well make sure that AC25 works without glitches and AC26 is working correctly from time new OSX is released. I sympathise with early adopters of new MacBookPro M1Pro and Max none the less.

Chris Grantham
Enthusiast

Not a whole lot to sympathize with... my M1 Pro Max works great with all the above-mentioned releases...  The crash glitch could be annoying if you always simply quit out of projects as it would result in constantly having to delete an .lck file each time, but you can work around that.

 

I do agree that an AC24 release seems a bit silly at this point with the version release tract GS has been on.  HEY GRAPHISOFT:  GET IT TO 26 RUNNING NATIVELY ON M1 CHIPS THEN SLOW THE F- DOWN!  Updates are so much easier to deal with in an office than an entirely new release of half baked features.  We don't need a shiney new splash screen every year!

😉 

T Simmons
Participant

After upgrading to Monterey OS we discovered an issue with the Open and Save dialogs where the dialog width grows until it's wider than the screen. Until Graphisoft releases an update to fix this problem you can solve the issue with two Terminal commands as we describe in a Blog article we posted at this link >>

Eduardo Rolon
Moderator

@T Simmons An alternative is to use "Pref Editor" to edit com.graphisoft.archicad25.plist were you can copy the window size from "Save As" setting into the "Open". As I've been able to figure out it is only the "Open" window that changes and it increases in size once every two times you use the open command.

 

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T Simmons
Participant

Good idea. Just tried this approach which also works but both solutions still have the same issue which is that the Save As and Open dialog boxes resize to a wider length each time they're used. So no permanent solution yet other than to reapply one of these two options every so often to reset the dialog size. Hope Graphisoft has a fix to this in the next update! 

SJPHouse2
Contributor

I would have to agree - it is disappointing that Archicad 23 will not be supported. I feel like this is being done intentionally to force users to upgrade. This is not the best way to keep someones business. 

Eduardo Rolon
Moderator

New bug in 25.02.

Arrow "Selection Methods" settings are not remember between launches.

Sinisa Lazarevic
Participant

New issue came up in AC24. After about a week of crashing (expected behaviour), dialog box wider and resolvable as above now it has stopped save as and export command functions again. This happened when first installing OSX Monterey then after about a week full reinstall performed and now its back again. It makes AC24 on Monterey useless with no option to create new images, save files as DWG or export anything.

Sinisa Lazarevic
Participant

Update on above. After using terminal command as advised above on AC24 instead of AC25 dialog box for save as reappeared. It seems that once box becomes extra wide OSX doesn't open it anymore and defaults to cursor only. Workaround of sorts solved until February. Keeping those terminal commands handy in notes will be essential.

Eduardo Rolon
Moderator

I just had the issue were the "Open" dialog box snap back to its previous size in 25. 

csongraf
Contributor

Hi all,

for those who are unfamiliar with Terminal I've packaged the two Terminal commands into two shortcuts - now that Monterey lets me. So they can be run in a more simpler way.

The only thing You must enable is the "Allow running scripts" from the Settings.

Screen Shot 2021-11-13 at 8.21.32 AM.png

 

The Shortcuts can be found here: OPEN and SAVE.

 
SJPHouse2
Contributor

For what it's worth - so far AC23 works great with Monterey - not having any of the issues listed above. I'm sure GS will figure out a way to throw a kink in here somewhere though so they can get me to spend another couple thousand to upgrade to AC25 since they are not supporting AC23 any longer. 

andyro
Booster

Thanks for the terminal hacks Tom, any solutions for crashing on quit until GS offers a hotfix? And PS waiting 3 months for a patch to fix a known bug that causes constant known crashes is - what can I say, unacceptable. But accept it we must - until there is another BIM solution better than Archicad - which there will be someday. Sleep with your eyes open Graphisoft!

sarizsolt77
Observer

I'm disappointed. When will the new update /400XX bulid/ for the Hungarian OSX version be released? The new operating system was slowly released a month ago..... and I'd like to work.... 

MAD
Participant

Why do we have to wait until feb 2022?? There have been MacOS only updates before, why can't it be done this time around?

Norbert Kucsma
Graphisoft
Graphisoft

Dear All,

 

Thank you for sharing your thoughts about the MacOS-Archicad compatibility issues.

 

The Open and Save dialog size problem can be solved in the following way:

  • The Open dialog resize issue is solved by modifying the Browse for dialog's size from the Publishing Properties. This directly affects the size of the Open dialog.
  • For the Save and Save As dialog, use the Print -> Save as PDF option. The appearing window is resizable, which will help to decrease the size of the Save dialog.

These workarounds are applicable to Archicad 24 and Archicad 25

 

We are continuously working on fixing bugs, but unfortunately, due to limited resources, we can only release Update 5 for Archicad 24 in a later date. Sorry for the inconvenience.

The second update (40xx build) of Archicad 25 HUN is planned for early December.

 

Kind regards,

Norbert Kucsma

 

Technical Support Engineer,
GRAPHISOFT SE, Budapest

Avanti
Participant

Hello,
This week, my computer was upgraded to MacOS Monterrey 12.1 and now, when I open the Archicad 25 4014 INT SOLO, a message appears asking if I allow the Archicad to have internet access. But it also takes about 7 minutes to open a project. I attach some photographs. I hope you can help me or that this comment can help the graphisoft team for the next update. Thank you.Screen Shot 2021-12-13 at 9.52.19 AM.pngMacO Monterrey 12.1MacO Monterrey 12.1Screen Shot 2021-12-16 at 10.00.09 AM.png

Minh Nguyen
Graphisoft
Graphisoft

Dear @Avanti 

Happy New Year!

Thank you very much for the report and I am very sorry about the issue!

Based on your description, I believe that this is more likely a problem with the local machine. I suggest contacting the local support for further investigation.

Thank you very much for your understanding! Please let us know if you need anything else!
Best regards,

Minh

jfaugustine
Booster

There has been a lot of commentary regarding macOS Monterey and bug crash reports when quitting Archicad.  I am running Archicad 22 on a MacBook Pro / M1 Max / Monterey 12.3.1 and utilize the following workflow to AVOID the annoying, though benign bug report pop-up.

 

 - Save and Close the active Archicad files(s).

 - Use Finder to "eject" the code meter.

 - Return to the Archicad session, then Archicad will prompt you to exit the program. Choose "Quit and Don't Save".  (This can be done successfully, and without the bug report pop-up, since the file was already saved and closed.)

 

Maybe a small item, but those slow little ladybugs are annoying...

marcodallago
Participant

Is it just me or with Monterey intel and AC 25 I can no longer edit story leves on sections and elevation? It worked on Big Sur

Minh Nguyen
Graphisoft
Graphisoft

Hi @marcodallago 

 

Thank you for the report!

We tested the function here using Archicad 25 5010 and macOS 12.4, but we couldn't reproduce the problem. We would like to know if you have the latest update for Archicad and macOS installed? If yes, I suggest reaching out to the local support team for further investigation.

 

Thank you very much!
Minh

marcodallago
Participant

Hi @Minh Nguyen , thanks for reaching back. So I dive more into my problem. Looks like if a section is a "Drawing" type it does not let me change story levels. But changing the type to "Auto rebuild model" now let me makes changes.

 

Honestly speaking I used section and elevations basically as worksheets (only as 2d drawing) with grid and story levels displayed in order manage height throughout the whole project.

 

Still, not very common use, since now everyone use 3D, but would be nice to enable it also for "drawing" type sections/elevation 😊

OK-PLAST
Participant

Will Archidac Start Edition 2021 be compatible with macos Monterey like Archicad 24?

Minh Nguyen
Graphisoft
Graphisoft

Hi @OK-PLAST 

 

Unfortunately, Archicad SE2021 will not be made compatible for macOS Monterey. Thank you for your understanding!

 

Best regards,

Minh

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