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Saved Sketch Render View Altered from AC19 to AC20

Stress Co_
Advisor
I've migrated a project from AC19 to AC20.

I haven't changed ANY settings yet, my saved Sketch Rendered
views are different (see attached).

Have "Line Styles" changed (Tech Pencil is used in both examples)?

I can't replicate the AC19 output in AC20

Screen Shot 2016-10-09 at 2.04.19 AM.png
Marc Corney, Architect
Red Canoe Architecture, P. A.

Mac OS 10.15.7 (Catalina) //// Mac OS 14.2.1 (Sonoma)
Processor: 3.6 GHz 8-Core Intel Core i9 //// Apple M2 Max
Memory: 48 GB 2667 MHz DDR4 //// 32 GB
Graphics: Radeon Pro 580X 8GB //// 12C CPU, 30C GPU
ArchiCAD 25 (5010 USA Full) //// ArchiCAD 27 (4030 USA Full)
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Erwin Edel
Rockstar
It does seem like the tech pencil turned from 6H to 2B, doesn't it?

I noticed something similar the other day.
Erwin Edel, Project Lead, Leloup Architecten
www.leloup.nl

ArchiCAD 9-26NED FULL
Windows 10 Pro
Adobe Design Premium CS5
DGSketcher
Legend
Got the same thing here. Fortunately the sketches it has affected didn't need reissued otherwise I might have had to waste time spotting the change in settings IF that is the cause.
Apple iMac Intel i9 / macOS Sonoma / AC27UKI (most recent builds.. if they work)
Stress Co_
Advisor
Assuming "Line Style" was the issue....
I copied (and renamed) the Tech Pencil "SketchTextures" folder from AC19's "Visualization Folder" to AC20's.

No joy. Same result.

(It didn't appear that the .tif images were any different between the two versions.)
Marc Corney, Architect
Red Canoe Architecture, P. A.

Mac OS 10.15.7 (Catalina) //// Mac OS 14.2.1 (Sonoma)
Processor: 3.6 GHz 8-Core Intel Core i9 //// Apple M2 Max
Memory: 48 GB 2667 MHz DDR4 //// 32 GB
Graphics: Radeon Pro 580X 8GB //// 12C CPU, 30C GPU
ArchiCAD 25 (5010 USA Full) //// ArchiCAD 27 (4030 USA Full)
Is it possible that the Drawing Selection setting (i.e. in Layout) for "Colors" got accidentally switched from Color to Grayscale?
Drawing DBX.jpg
Richard
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Richard Morrison, Architect-Interior Designer
AC26 (since AC6.0), Win10
Stress Co_
Advisor
Richard wrote:
Is it possible that the Drawing Selection setting (i.e. in Layout) for "Colors" got accidentally switched from Color to Grayscale?
No. Setting is the same.
BTW, those screen shots are of the source view,
not the layouts.

I'm getting better output by dialing the paper roughness to Zero.
Marc Corney, Architect
Red Canoe Architecture, P. A.

Mac OS 10.15.7 (Catalina) //// Mac OS 14.2.1 (Sonoma)
Processor: 3.6 GHz 8-Core Intel Core i9 //// Apple M2 Max
Memory: 48 GB 2667 MHz DDR4 //// 32 GB
Graphics: Radeon Pro 580X 8GB //// 12C CPU, 30C GPU
ArchiCAD 25 (5010 USA Full) //// ArchiCAD 27 (4030 USA Full)
Erwin Edel
Rockstar
What used to be a more or less solid black line, turned into a grainy line.

I allways like the tech pencil for being a sharp, crisp line, almost like 3D document would get you, but with the option of giving it a bit of the overstretch to make it, well, sketchy.

Great for overlaying on your colour renders subtly to give edges more definition and make the whole thing look a bit more like illustration. This effect is pretty much ruined by the whole grainy linework you get out of ArchiCAD20 at the moment.

I've reported it as a bug to the dutch reseller.

Unrelated, I also notice that the 3D views don't match up between 19 and 20. The horizon seems to have dropped a bit, for lack of better explanation. Excact same camera settings make the bottom end of my model disappear in 20. I've reported this too.
Erwin Edel, Project Lead, Leloup Architecten
www.leloup.nl

ArchiCAD 9-26NED FULL
Windows 10 Pro
Adobe Design Premium CS5
Erwin Edel
Rockstar
Oh and before I forget, the other line styles have the same grainy look to them
Erwin Edel, Project Lead, Leloup Architecten
www.leloup.nl

ArchiCAD 9-26NED FULL
Windows 10 Pro
Adobe Design Premium CS5
NCornia
Graphisoft
Graphisoft
Hi All,

This is a recently reported issue. A coding change had a negative effect on the Paper Roughness setting. As Marc noticed above, set the Paper Roughness to 0% in the PhotoRendering Settings palette and the quality should be as you might expect it.

Sorry for the inconvenience. This is planned to be fixed in a future Update for ARCHICAD 20.

Best regards,
Paper Roughness.png
Nicholas Cornia
Technical Support Team - GRAPHISOFT North America
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Katalin Borszeki
Graphisoft
Graphisoft
Hi All, this problem has been fixed in ARCHICAD 20! It is currently not planned to be fixed for ARCHICAD 19.
Best, k
Katalin Borszeki
Implementation Specialist
GRAPHISOFT

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