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I've never posted in the wish section before (certainly not recently), since I generally believe the developers don't pay that much attention to what goes on here.

But I thought I'd just ask (even though I likewise don't realistically expect an answer),

Is there any chance that Archicad my get (TRUE) multi-monitor support like it seems Revit will be getting in their upcoming version:



This follows the most recent versions of Vectorwors (2018) and also Allplan for quite some time (since 2015) all having multi=monitor support, which.....one would have thought would be a no-brainer for a graphics-related, CAD/BIm design program and with the proliferation of really powerful graphics cards and GPU's nowadays.

I asked about this some time back, and no response, and I swear if I didn't know better, I would think that Revit developers read Graphisoft forums and then get features to improve or add, from the requests that people make here.
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Brett Brown
Contributor
Hi Bricklyne, Are you using Windows? On a Mac we have multi montor support. Check the Reference guide of the version you are using. In 20, only available for Mac, not Windows. Don't know about 21.
Imac, Mojave, AC 20, AC 25 Solo UKI, Vectorworks Architect 2021, Revit LT 2021

I'm on Windows and it's not available (as in TRUE multi-monitor support and not just stretching a window across two monitors) in any version as far as I can tell (I'm on the latest version).
And this has been a major request going several years back now, so it would be a little disappointing (and annoying but ultimately not surprising) to learn that they implemented it already on the Mac side for a while already.

What makes it even harder to understand why this would be a low priority wishlist item for them to implement is that currently pretty much all their rivals and alternative programs out there (Revit, Allplan, Vectorworks, Microstation) ALL have multi-monitor support. Especially now with Revit adding it to their latest version.

It's a no-brainer (or at least it should be) for the type of industry we are and how we work in a visual medium and in a visual way of thinking, and given where graphics card and GPU technology are today.

It boggles my mind sometimes why they drag their feet on implementing features such as this

Brett Brown
Contributor
Archcad 21 Help, page 352, undock Tab and drag to second monitor, Mac only. Still doesn't work like Revit, which continually updates all open windows without the user doing anything. We have to click in each window for it to update.

One of many basic glaring omissions we still haven't got

Only a couple of weeks to wait to see if any have been implemented in 22
Imac, Mojave, AC 20, AC 25 Solo UKI, Vectorworks Architect 2021, Revit LT 2021

Anonymous
Not applicable
Don't expect it in 22, but there are rumors that it could come in next version. It's on dev radar

Yes, I didn't expect it in version 22.
(to be honest, I didn't even expect it in version 23 next year).

But it's important that its at least somewhere on their roadmap, since it's something they have unforgiveably dragged their legs on (to the extent that they're now the only ones in the market that don't spot this feature).

Made even more worse by the realisation that they already implemented it, but only on the Mac side and for two versions already.

daviiiiidave
Contributor
Hey Guys,

i think this option is the most important thing for Archicad v23.

But dont praise it to much cause it should be a standard option.

Its like the full screen mode of apple. long time ago there was no full screen mode. then they implemented it and made a big thing of it.

I think in the most offices people work with 2 or more screens. Make it happen GS.

I think with this option it could be possible to have 4 Views (Top, Side, 3D and Cut) like in cinema, rhino or blender next to each other.
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furtonb
Enthusiast
daviiiiidave wrote:
I think with this option it could be possible to have 4 Views (Top, Side, 3D and Cut) like in cinema, rhino or blender next to each other.
I think Revit has a more useful way to organize more than 4 views with the "window tile (W~T)" command (the video won't demonstrate, but it works with dozens of views also):


but it seems like that the tabbed views are influencing them too:
actively using: AC22-25 INT | Rhino6-7 | macOS / win10

Tomek Piatek
Contributor
I'm a long time Revit user just starting to look at ArchiCAD because Revit is so frustrating. Don't think that the grass is greener on the other side. It might look it but it is just astroturf, not even real grass 😉

Anyway, Revit's current multi-monitor support is rudimentary at best. Yes you can drag tabs out onto a second screen but they don't really behave like real windows. Also tabbed views are a real mess. For example, when you have multiple projects open there is no visual distinction between the tabs. It gets really crowded and messy very quickly. The tiled view is not all that useful unless you have a high DPI monitor, otherwise you just see less of more. Not very useful.

In my mind multi-monitor support is a no brainer but it needs to implemented well. Look towards apps like Adobe's Creative Suite to see how they manage multiple windows. In particular how they support tabbed vs separate windows. Most importantly once tabs are dragged / separated into individual windows it is important that they behave like the native OS's windows and not something weird with strange decorations, buttons, etc.

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ArchiCAD 23
Windows 10 Pro

Wow, this old thread.

When I posted a year ago, I predicted that it wouldn't be implemented in version 22 and I was right.
And I also predicted not to expect it in version 23 and it seems like I will be right about that as well.

So I'll go ahead and predict that it won't be implemented in version 24 next year either.
Graphisoft developers seem to have their own list of priorities of what they seek to address in the program that seems to have nothing to do with these wishlist sections which is why I have such little faith in the effectiveness of the whole wishlist request system.

And one seems to get the impression that this feature, as important a feature as it may seem for us the users, doesn't seem to rank that high for the developers.
(my guess is that it might involve a major rewrite of the program's graphic kernel to allow it to handle multi-monitor GPU processing and processes and I just don't see them investing anything in that direction at this time.)

It's worth noting of course, that it's only us PC and Windows' users that are the redheaded step-child being denied this since it's already been implemented on the Mac side.

How do you have both screens set up?

Been using two screens for 15 years or so now and I allways have one screen in front and one to the (right) side.

I keep my webbrowser, e-mail, PDF documents, start bar on that right screen (basically the stuff I don't look at that often) and have what I'm currently working on stuck to the screen in front. I would probably get neck pains if I would be actively working on both screens.

Having neither screen front and center would seem akward too.

Would you be swapping views from side to side when working?
Erwin Edel, Project Lead, Leloup Architecten
www.leloup.nl

ArchiCAD 9-24 NED FULL
Windows 10 Pro
Adobe Design Premium CS5

Andy Melaragno
Participant
I'll chime in for what it's worth and add that I too think this is an important feature that should be added for us Windows users. I am finishing up my first set of CD's in Archicad and I really want to have one floor plan up on one monitor while working on a different plan. I do think it's a little ridiculous that the feature is available for Apple users and not Windows.
Andy Melaragno
Columbus, Ohio USA
Transitioning from 2D AutoCAD after 20+ years
AC 23 / 24 USA | Windows 10 Pro | GeForce RTX 2060 Super | 32 GB |Intel i7-8700K @3.70 Ghz

Andy wrote:
I'll chime in for what it's worth and add that I too think this is an important feature that should be added for us Windows users. I am finishing up my first set of CD's in Archicad and I really want to have one floor plan up on one monitor while working on a different plan. I do think it's a little ridiculous that the feature is available for Apple users and not Windows.
Wow.
This old thread.
It's almost embarrassing reading it back now seeing as how little traction it got on the development side (not entirely unexpected).

The simple explanation for that is that the developers of this program are huge Apple/Mac/Steve Jobs fanboys (and gals).

To the point where I think it even clouds their judgment on topics like this because fact of the matter is the vast majority of their users (and hence the bigger source of their revenue streams) are Windows users, not Mac Users.
This isn't to slight Mac users, but rather to point out how sometimes their development priorities and thinking could be self-defeating.

With any luck (and by "any" I mean, 'LOTS' of it.) you may have it in ArchiCAD 24.
Or not.
More likely not.

Lingwisyer
Virtuoso
I always thought that that was part of the OS, rather than something enabled through the AC software.
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Andy Melaragno
Participant
Lingwisyer wrote:
I always thought that that was part of the OS, rather than something enabled through the AC software.
I can drag tabs to other monitors in other programs like Bluebeam with no problem. I believe it has to be written into the software.
Andy Melaragno
Columbus, Ohio USA
Transitioning from 2D AutoCAD after 20+ years
AC 23 / 24 USA | Windows 10 Pro | GeForce RTX 2060 Super | 32 GB |Intel i7-8700K @3.70 Ghz

Lingwisyer
Virtuoso
Andy wrote:
Lingwisyer wrote:
I always thought that that was part of the OS, rather than something enabled through the AC software.
I can drag tabs to other monitors in other programs like Bluebeam with no problem. I believe it has to be written into the software.

I am talking about AC specifically. I just find it really odd that they would code such functionality into a specific version. I have not used the iOS version so I am not familiar with the actual interactions.
AC18-23 AUS 7000
Self-taught, bend it till it breaks.
Win10 | E5620 x 2 | 24GB | K2200

hampden
Newcomer
Archicad 23 we are going into 2020 and windows still has no multi monitor support - we have so much information to display and cross reference in a drawing set it's such an important productivity issue - everyone in our office has at least two monitors, and most have (2) 4k displays - please prioritize this for the next iteration GS!
Stefan Hampden
CAST architecture - Seattle architect

Eric Milberger
Booster
I have been using dual monitor support for cad on PC's since 1986.
Could not be without it - but wait - I am because I found a greatly stronger Cad Package in Archicad.
That being said a missing dual monitor or more capability is a sore miss for Archicad.
Production will increase as long as this does not totally drag down the software.
And I hope it would not require a manual refresh bit even that is one step to perfection
Please consider this as it would be my Number one on all fronts.
Eric Milberger, Architect | Master Planner
Archicad 25
AecoSim
Microstation
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Eric Milberger
Booster
I have dual screens on all staff setups and at my home, office and job site.
At my office desk I have three monitors

Pre Archicad (Bentley from 1986-2020)
Dual Setup with One session of CAD on both before my change to Archicad
Left or Right did not matter as they could change but full cad on each
Menus with Plan on A an Iso or Section or Detail I might be working on right
I might have as many as 4 views on each screen of different things or in different presentations

All this being said - I want badly dual monitors - but willing not to have 8 views at the same time if it kills my computer.
When I have 4 or four monitors it would be for my calendar or mails or even the news.
Eric Milberger, Architect | Master Planner
Archicad 25
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Microstation
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Remote - i7-8550U CPU @ 1.80GHz, 2001 Mhz, 4 Core

Office - Processor i7-8700K CPU @ 3.70GHz, 3696 Mhz, 6 Core

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