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UNSELECTABLE LAYER OPTION

jeanpg
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Think it could be useful to gray and make non selectable locked layers.
As simple as it is, this option does not exist in archicad.
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Barry Kelly
Moderator
They are grey and unselectable in the layer list.
Or do you mean the elements in the plan?
And you didn't vote in your own poll.
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SPINCODE
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It will be nice if the layer settings box had a button "gray locked layers"

and another button - "Color Layer content using special LAYER COLOR"
Basil Popov
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gpowless
Contributor
It sounds like you want Archicad to behave more like AutoCad.

Not needed. There are better ways to organize and manage layers in Archicad IMHO.
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kliment
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gpowless wrote:
It sounds like you want Archicad to behave more like AutoCad.
Yeah, I have always wondered why does someone move to a new program and expect it to behave like the previous one.
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vfrontiers
Contributor
I see this as VERY USEFUL.... whether or not it originated in AutoCrap. I also want to be able to OVERRIDE MATERIALS using the layer box so I can RENDER framing along with ghosted walls....

Currently, to achieve the grey layer idea, you are required to put 2 VIEWS down on a sheet and override a background plan with grey pens.. It works, but try visualizing it as you are working!
Duane
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gpowless
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Unless you use the renovation filter.....
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vfrontiers
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You mean eventually, someday, when they let us create our own categories... Maybe.. but I still think it far easier to use a layer overriding system..
Duane
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AlexM
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Resurrecting this one.

People are saying 'don't implement it because it came from Autocad', but similar controls exist in Rhino, Microstation, Vectorworks - almost any modelling software I can think of. People need to be open to a workflow benefit, rather than persisting with a workSLOW process just because it's all they know.

Let me give an example. In plan view I have slabs and zones turned on and locked. I want to edit something - walls, objects, columns - by dragging a selection box around those elements. This turns a quick edit operation into a multi-step process, multi-click, error prone process, even with the Quick Layers box.

Layer combos are not the answer, because I want to SEE the slab edges and zone edges when editing. I even want to snap to them. I just don't want to have selecting specific objects turn into a chore because the zone and slab will invariably select first when trying to use Arrow tool dragging.

Marquee tool works sometimes, but loves to modify connected elements which is not always desired. More clicking and re-editing or multiple steps.

This is just a simple example in plan view. Working in 3D views for even slightly complex buildings is even more painful. Half the time we simply resort to Rhino because the ability to manage selection edits is so much simpler!

Happy to be shown I'm barking up the wrong tree and there's a simple solution I've completely overlooked. But I think this wish should be on the 'Essential' list, no question.
22 / 24 / 25 Win10 & OSX

Braza
Newcomer
AlexM wrote:
Resurrecting this one.
Yes. I think this is an important one...
And how about adding a "Selectable" checkbox to my proposed Filter Combination Dialog Box that is part of my Model Filter View Option whish?
Does this sounds good?
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The colour display could be easily covered by Graphic Overrides, if we could set the criteria to check for locked status.

The ability to have the selection process ignore locked layers would be a big help in some situations. My favourite frustration is the shell tool which is partially displayed by the floor height cut plane, but trying to select elements displayed below results in picking up the shell. I am sure there are many other examples. The downside is you wouldn't be able to select an element and use quick layers to unlock or hide it.
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Braza
Newcomer
DGSketcher wrote:
The downside is you wouldn't be able to select an element and use quick layers to unlock or hide it.
Agreed.
Weather with a Layer System or a Filter System, this whish would definitely need to come also with an "Unselectable Toggle" command on the On-Screen View Options to give more flexibility. IMO.
Paulo Henrique Santos, Architect
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AlexM
Contributor
Braza wrote:

Does this sounds good?
That sounds excellent!
22 / 24 / 25 Win10 & OSX

Braza
Newcomer
AlexM wrote:
That sounds excellent!
Nice! I created a post in the Model Filter View Option whish including this feature.
Cheers,
Paulo Henrique Santos, Architect
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