So having layers has it strength for global management via combinations but exceptions for visibilty create headaches
Granular management (like the other package starting with "R") is also great but looses logical grouping and global management prowess
We need both
I kind of do it now when using the 3d window and detailing...you can turn off individual elements using (def) alt+F5
Why cant this be applied to floor plan where granular items can be switched off but still maintaining the power of layers?
There are a lot more stages in this detail, but you get the idea. There are no layers involved, they are just views with element/objects hidden by alt+F5
WE NEED THIS FOR THE REST OF AC!
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Laszlo Nagy
Thanks for your detailed answer
I have had the privilege of being focused on overviews, automation and implementation in a number of large companies...so its a bit intense (since 98 in earnest)
We have more dimension and annotation layers for diferent scales than actual element layers, which works, but makes us feel ashamed of ourselves, as in: isnt there a better way to handle scales and annotation?
I have an industrial design background/manufacturing/graphix so I tend to do a lot of tearaways as full page PDF so that users can just scroll through for pseudo animated sequencing with just a couple of note...its actually easier and they can just measure off the bimx. ..but using the alt F5 is almost enough in concept
This is from an old file...that green is not original hehe so normally the matrix of images is full screen and scrolling does animated tear/build which engineers find very helpful and was pretty minimal to do (once its in a template from). Dynamic visibility is key though
Even though we are working on implementing it, so far we havent been in the need to use a clasification system because the scale of our projects dont need it, and neither regulations nor clients ask for it. Yet we do get fairly extensive BOQ from our models, enough to budget up to the last square pound of concrete per element.
Classification really comes into its own for IFC exchange to quanity surveyors in progs like CostX etc
My initial job was implementing a fair bit more than a BOQ; the old listing system in Archicad is blindingly powerful...just a ridiculous layout process. I was actually generating the entire (well 95%) of the orders directly from within Archicad. ie The pricebook was linked to Archicad from accounts/purchasing via a text file (an old non current example displayed below). You chose a supplier and it did the rest with item codes generated parametrically by the items and heirarchy. No nuts and bolts as they are assembly/m2/m3 based anyway but just about everything else.
Nothing needs to go outside...
BUT
It does mean that the physical modelling needs to have audits and feedback AND simplicity for users
AND
Create top notch graphic competent display etc so that is my gripe and why dynamic control would work so well in my case.
Im only really just getting into the deeper stuff of BIMx but it has thrown up plenty of showstoppers for a succinct stakeholder interchange, most notably not being able to introduce variations of the model without saving a separate geometry model for each one...which just doesnt work well for a browser/linked presentation.
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