2003-12-17 06:07 PM
2003-12-17 09:44 PM
Jacek wrote:
As listed in the CD forum; I would like to be able to save a PMK file/print/publish with a ghost story showing -if chosen so.
Any other takers?
2003-12-17 09:54 PM
aahatimo wrote:
i agree in principle. i do not use pmk's myself, but....
2003-12-18 12:22 AM
2003-12-18 01:07 AM
Matthew wrote:that is how we do it now also, just looking for a single plan version.
The same effect is easily accomplished now. Simply overlay two drawings in PlotMaker and make all the pens in the "ghosted" drawing grey. (Remember to place hotspots for accurate registration.) This technique also allows the two drawings to have different layer settings making it much more versatile than including the ghost story from ArchiCAD.
Matthew wrote:not sure i agree regarding elaborate, limited & complicated. it seems like if we could save the ghost story and display setting w/ the view set one could get the same result. just like it shows on screen w/ ac.
I don't consider this a workaround but rather a best practice. To include a ghost story from ArchiCAD means you have to tell it which story. This means the ghost story settings would have to be included in the view setup. This all seems rather elaborate to enable a function which is inherently more limited and more complicated than what we can already do.
2003-12-18 01:29 AM
"Matthew Lohden" wrote:
The same effect is easily accomplished now. Simply overlay two drawings in PlotMaker and make all the pens in the "ghosted" drawing grey. (Remember to place hotspots for accurate registration.)"Matthew Lohden" wrote:
In fact it is not easily accomplished when dealing with large sites and complex drawings; the file size is doubled and manouvering one drawing over another with possibly other elements in the Layout, is a lot more difficult, and has potential for unintended mistakes than simply selecting the desired Ghost story to show under/over the chosen view. The "ghosting" can be further manipulated by <Option> and selecting the desired color/intensity for the layer -generating a single file with desired appearance and no need for alignment and also reduced size.
Jacek
2003-12-18 05:28 AM
Jacek wrote:The file size is not doubled. It is simply a choice between one large drawing and two smaller ones. Accuracy of placement is easily accomplished regardless of size or complexity by placing hotspots in the ArchiCAD views being overlaid in PlotMaker. If the drawings are so large and complex that redraw times are a problem, then just set them to display as black and white bitmaps.
...the file size is doubled and manouvering one drawing over another with possibly other elements in the Layout, is a lot more difficult...
2003-12-18 05:31 PM
2003-12-18 06:07 PM
"Matthew Lohden" wrote:
Perhaps I don't understand some of the uses you need this for. ....
You mention large sites and complex drawings. How are you using the ghost drawing and overlays?[/quote
Matthew,
I am not using the the ghost Story for a greyed out underlay/reference only, often I use it as a referenced background information displayed as boldly (almost) as the 'front' drawing. It is simply a way of showing things from other stories, like; Lower floors, site contours, existing features, landscape, etc..
In this case, specificallly my survey drawing that I would like to reference to is 6.5MB! I know that I can change it, explode and resave etc.. but that requires a lot more work than merging the drawing to a lower story and selecting that story to display in ArchiCAD, saving as a view and publishing. Just that when I publish I will not see the Ghost Story -and hence, this post. Much too complicated...
So I save one view as a PMK and another file as a PMK and end up manipulating files in the 6.5 - and 1.5 MB range!
That is why I would like to be able to save/print a ghost story out of Publisher.
Jacek
2003-12-18 07:19 PM
Jacek wrote:I feel that Matthew is right. If you do have your 6.5 MB file in the ghost storey, it will still be 6.5 MB of data to display. So whether you have one 6.5 MB and one 1.5 MB file, or one 8MB file is irrelevant.
So I save one view as a PMK and another file as a PMK and end up manipulating files in the 6.5 - and 1.5 MB range!
That is why I would like to be able to save/print a ghost story out of Publisher.