archicad 10 calculaton enhancements

[Anonymous]

Would any of you adventurous souls who have ventured into version 10 please provide some insight about any calculation ehancenments.
thanks,
Dan K

[SeaGeoff]

Whoa, you had me scared there for a moment. I hadn't played with the new schedules since early beta. But I was able to schedule a project in no time using just the defaults found in the US template. Then I set up a graphic window schedule in less than 5 minutes. I'm sure we'll all have some desired formatting improvements, and we're still waiting for simple calculation abilities but this marks such a vast improvement over anything to date that we should all be thrilled. It is the first ArchiCAD schedule mechanism that I would recommend to new users.

[James Murray]

I wish I'd caught this when there was a chance of fixing it: Hidden parameters are not available for element schedule schemes.

Big mistake. I have a lot of parameters that are used for listing that are hidden from the user.

Example: A window has horizontal and vertical divisions, each is an integer. I use a hidden string parameter to hold the 'synthesized' divisions info, and that is what is listed.

!hDiv; int parameter, horizontal divisions
!vDiv; int parameter, vertical divisions
!xwxhList; str parameter, hidden.

xwxhList=STR(hDiv,1,0)+'W'+STR(vDiv,1,0)+'H'
IF xwxhList='1W1H' THEN xwxhList='Single'
PARAMETERS xwxhList=xwxhList

When the user puts in 2 & 2, it lists as 2W2H.

In 9, I can assemble 2 or more parameters into something that lists neatly. The user never sees the listing stuff, the list never sees the user stuff.

Unless I'm missing something, this is a step back from 9. Too bad, since the rest of it is so improved.

[Anonymous]

James wrote:
I wish I'd caught this when there was a chance of fixing it: Hidden parameters are not available for element schedule schemes.

Big mistake. I have a lot of parameters that are used for listing that are hidden from the user.

....

James,
This is kinda' scary for me. I'm wanting to upgade to version 10 but I have a number of objects(wdws) that are scripted with hidden parameters that I need to schedule/list.

I use "hide parameter" and "lock" statements in several of my objects. Do you know if I will have similar problems? It looks like you are hiding the parmaters via clicking on the "X" in the scripting window. Does the same thing happen with "hide parameter" statements???

thanks,
Dan K

[Anonymous]

Dan wrote:

James wrote:
I wish I'd caught this when there was a chance of fixing it: Hidden parameters are not available for element schedule schemes.

Big mistake. I have a lot of parameters that are used for listing that are hidden from the user.

....

James,
This is kinda' scary for me. I'm wanting to upgade to version 10 but I have a number of objects(wdws) that are scripted with hidden parameters that I need to schedule/list.

I use "hide parameter" and "lock" statements in several of my objects. Do you know if I will have similar problems? It looks like you are hiding the parmaters via clicking on the "X" in the scripting window. Does the same thing happen with "hide parameter" statements???

thanks,
Dan K

After reviewing an old post of mine I'm not sure this even worked in version 9. here's the post:
http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?p=36168&highlight=#36168
Please let me know your thoughts

thanks,
Dan K

[Rod Jurich]

Rob wrote:

You already can in AC9. The trick is that you have to make sure your schedule boxes are large enough to fit the windows/doors in them without scaling them.

hang on, hang on, can you do that in AC10? As I can remember it was not possible with the latest AC10 beta or RC which has slightly infuriated my rather calm nature...

further to the W/D schedule, in my opinion it is an useless piece of (now nice looking) junk. .......Quite frankly, window/door schedule is NOT EXISTING in AC, you can get the list of the openings but it is not a full-on schedule used for D&C or construction etc. And let's face it fellos without any comments about the beautiful future of AC11,12,13... tools. I need to document my job NOW!

Robert, talk to the guys at 3dEdge <http://www.3dedge.com.au/>. Ben has done a great job with a little help here. Developed I think what you may be looking for.
Works really well in 9 and in 10.
Except in 10 once placed you must unlink to prevent next placement to another layout from overwriting previous placement.
Frustrating bug that Sydney are forwarding to GS.
Need to have their windows/door to work. Attached 1 view of a typical window.

[Laura Yanoviak]

I'm sorry, but I still do not find the IS improvements in AC10 acceptable. The IS units must be controlled by the Dimensions Preferences (archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=7397&highlight=). And at the very least, we must have control of the formatting of individual cells, not sections (Header, Value, etc.).

I will still need to export to Excel and edit/format extensively to get the schedules I need...

[Anonymous]

This may be off topic slight ly --but need to find out why in editing in the IS door schedule, I can not update any dimensions stated in the panel thickness column. The schedule wants to overwrite the dim before I can type in the new dimension. I cannot even do a copy and paste from another cell and have the dim stick. The process starts from my fat fingers making an error in typing and needing to fix the number in the cell. 1 3/8" seems impossible to make happen. The work around is to go to the 3d window of all mu unit plans - do a find and select making sure the offending entry has been isolated by giving a really off id number to find and then changing the parameters in the individual lib part... this is a real pain as each time the IS rebuilds - and rather slowly..

Any one else getting this kind of frustratration??

Lew Bishop
Jon Worden Architects
G5 Dual 2.0 4GB nVidia 6800
OSX 10.4.7 AC 10 966US