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Doors & Zones - Losing hope

Anonymous
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In an effort to simplify and route out our reliance on 3rd party objects I have made our own doors and a system for scheduling.

The system works and it is simple enough to get juniors to do it.
Simply, doors are modeled in 3d including frames and the corresponding 2d fragment(s) drawn. These are saved as non-placeable door types and then called up from our own 'master door' which contains all the scheduling data.

That much works great - and I'm not worried about frames matching wall thicknesses as the details cover this (although it might be an area for future development) - it means also that our door types drawings are pretty much done.

One problem remains which is the numbering of the doors and is due to the unpredictable zone allocation of the door. This is a problem because I am using the door ID and zone as the door number.

We need to be able to control which zone the door belongs to beyond relying on swing direction (not that currently this makes any difference).

I have tried putting a dynamic hotspot on the door master to shift the c of g but this has no effect.

There are no overlapping zones on visible or invisible layers.

Using the dynamic hotspot technique on the actual door label works just fine but alas we can not schedule the labels. (label reads door ID and zone number comes from label c of g)

I have a manual override in the door master in which I can enter in a custom zone number but this is not BIM.

Any ideas and help greatly appreciated.
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Brian Spears
Booster
matjashka wrote:
Gentlemen, if I understand the 2-column problem correctly, it can be resolved with *ANY* AC door if you use a custom marker. Works for me and my "live" schedules. I did this to successfully eliminate having to put anything in Excel of PDF.

Let me know if you want me to elaborate... I don't remember exactly how I did this, but here's a quick-and-dirty result (see attachment). Is this what we're talking about...? This is all BIM-based, every single field is part of the door+marker parameter combination.

EDIT: oh, of course, the door ID here is actually a combination of zone number and door ID, not just manual door ID, just to be clear.
matjashka, if you do get a chance to elaborate, I know I'd appreciate it. I currently don't use custom doors, just standard AC doors, but I'm intrigued by what you mean by "a custom marker". What is involved in this? The schedule looks great - what I'd want to see - the zone number and some sort of door id combined into one piece of information. Well done.
Brian Spears
BIM Manager, Steele Group Architects
Winston-Salem, NC
AC27 USA on macOS
matjashka
Advocate
Brian,

I posted a new topic in response to your question.
archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=48107

It shows how to create a custom marker with merged Zone and door IDs for display and scheduling.
Matt Krol [LinkedIn]
BHMS Architects and Planners, Chicago
AC 10 ... 26 USA