creating a canted curved glass curtain wall

[Anonymous]

I am interested in creating a curtain wall that leans back ~15 degrees while occurring on a curved wall. The extras->accessories->wall canted creates one plumb wall and an adjoining canted wall. I only need the canted one, but can't just delete the plumb one. I have also tried to use a conoid, but can't seem to get it to rotate on the Z axis. I have tried the curtain wall objects, but they don't work on compound curves. Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Susan Locsin
University of Washington

[Anonymous]

Susan,
What do you mean when you say,
"but can't seem to get it to rotate on the Z axis" ?
Do you mean that you can't get the object to rotate in plan,
or do you mean you can't get the object to "stand up" so
that the axis of curvature is vertical ?
Thank you,
Peter Devlin

[Anonymous]

Peter,
Thanks for the quick response. On the conoid, I haven't figured out how to stand it up. Hopefully there is a quick an easy way to do this. (I've only been using ArchiCAD for a few days)

[Anonymous]

Susan,
That's what I thought you meant and there is no easy way to tilt it up.
If you were able to tilt it up would it give you the shape you need ?

Without being familiar with GDL, it seems to me that you have the
following choices.

Make a new library part by viewing the conoid as you want it to appear
in plan and save the 3D view as a GDL object. In this case the 3D view
should be side view, either at 0° or 180°. Unfortunately this method
does not allow you to edit the parameters of the object so you have
set it up exactly how you want it before making it a new object

Make a curved roof with the roof tool at the pitch angle you want
for your canted wall, using the trim to roof command, use this roof to
first cut the top side of a very thick wall, then use the roof again to cut
the underside of the wall.
This method has the advantage of leaving an editable wall.

I don't suggest using the roof itself as the canted wall
because it is made small individual roofs.

If you think that you really need the conoid object then I will look
at the objects code and see how difficult it would be to tilt it up.

Since you are apparently learning Archicad I would recommend
the two methods outlined above as they would be an education
in the use of the program.

Thank you,
Peter Devlin

[Anonymous]

Susan.
I been thinking about what I suggested
and concluded that the roof method is too tedious
to be worth while doing and the making the
new library part in the 3D window is not satisfactory.
I did look at the conoid object and it is easy to make
it tilt up in 3D. The easy thing to do with the 2D symbol
is to have the symbol be a 3D top view projection in 2D.
I've made the modification to "conoid"
and you are welcome to it.
Peter Devlin

[Djordje]

Susan wrote:
I am interested in creating a curtain wall that leans back ~15 degrees while occurring on a curved wall.

ArchiGlazing comes to mind ... check with your reseller

What ArchiCAD are yo on? Full or Uni version?

[Anonymous]

Running ArchiCAD 9 student version w Option Manager.

Under Windows XP, how can I rotate the conoid to an upright position? It only seems to let me rotate in in the same plane.

[Anonymous]

Susan,
When I said it was easy to tilt it up I meant that it
is easy to modify the GDL code if you know some GDL.
I have the modified "conoid" object if you want it.
Thank you,
Peter Devlin

[Anonymous]

It occurs to me that there is another easy way to
create straight or curved canted walls.
Use profiler with a parallelogram as the polygon and
a straight line or arc as the path.
If you want true walls as the final object
use the profiler object as an operator on
a thick wall in a SEO.
Peter Devlin

[Aussie John]

As has been noted sometimes creating an object from the CAD plan doesnt give the correct orientation. Take some time to learn the rotate command in the GDL script. is not complicated.

Once you understand the ROTx ROTy ROTz commands and the "place 3D view into 2D window" you can modify any object you create in the CAD plan.