SKETCH RENDERING - MORE

[Anonymous]

Is there a document showing examples of all the combinations for the sketch rendering engine?

[Jefferson]

Thanks Dwight. Coming from you that is high priase and I'll take it! Perhaps next year I'll make it to ACUW and pick up your perspective on this approach.

As you said for me the key is this type of thing is fast, simple and in the NPR style. I first saw this style on the old talk board, an example from Paul Grieger.

[Rick Thompson]

Jefferson wrote:
Karl, David, All,

The look of hand work in renderings is SO much more ascthetically appealing to me and most of my clients. It also has the power of suggestion without giving them something so realistic that the focus is on the details instead of the concept.

Is this sort of what you mean Karl?

I get much better feedback on the hand look, I make a sketch rendering, open it in Canvas (similar to photoshop), erase for bushes and trees>>> print, hand draw a few bushes, window reflections, etc.>>> scan back in and colorize. The whole process is under 1/2 hour for a quick and easy hand look rendering. Sometimes I think "we" forget you can combine the computer and the hand, and it can be faster and some think nicer.

[Anonymous]

I have also found hand drawn renderings to be more effective, particularly in schematic phase. The attached file shows a drawing my partner and I produced for a project back in 1996.

The process:
1. Modeled in ArchiCAD (version 5.0 I think)
2. Plotted to HPGL file
3. Used Squiggle to convert HPGL to hand drawn look
4. Printed at 8 1/2 X 11
5. White out, pencil and ink applied by hand
6. Scanned back into Photoshop to unify the appearance of the line work
7. Printed at 17"x22" on vellum for the final coloring.

The whole process took about 1.5 hours. We have continued to do our presentations this way and naturally the process has gotten even more efficient but the time has been so embedded in the project work that is is difficult to extract. The above example was unusual as a complete and discrete process including the modeling.

[David Pacifico]

Karl Wrote: have you tried taking a sketch output such as that into Piranesi for some painting? (Or layering it in Photoshop.) I find the overshots and lines from certain Sketch Engine settings such as this more appealing

Yes you can do that an example can be found in this thread:
http://www.graphisoft.com/community/archicad-talk/viewtopic.php?p=5618#5618
http://www.graphisoft.com/community/archicad-talk/download.php?id=336

Also remeber you can use the ArchiCAD rendering engine first, then use that rendering as the background for your Sketch Rendering like the one below. Then you could save that out to Piranesi for more. (All without Photoshop)

[David Pacifico]

Ok, why stop? I turned on the Site and took it into Piranesi for some people and trees.
Directed the shadows of the cutouts to go toward the building.
Poured in a sky.
Burned in the cutouts (after saving them, just in case I want to go back)
Poured White over everything
Outlined every edge (Piranesi knows where every edge is)
Restored back the color where I wanted. (I left the ArchiCAD on the buiding unrestored)

[David Pacifico]

One more thing, while Piranesi doesn't have Layers really except for cutouts. One can use one rendering as a texture to paint over another one to get the same effect, with the added plus of being able lock to surfaces and materials. (I need to stop now.)

[Karl Ottenstein]

David wrote:
Also remember you can use the ArchiCAD rendering engine first, then use that rendering as the background for your Sketch Rendering like the one below.

Very clever trip, David. Thanks for that and for all of your experiments!

Karl

[Karl Ottenstein]

Rick / Matthew - Very nice. Thanks!

Karl

[Anonymous]

Sorry but I am jumping threads here. I also replied to the 'Piranesi' thread and have an image over there as well.

Attached is the updated todays image of the same job (the damn client has removed the top level this morning) so I have redone the AC file, rerendered it, and snuck it back into piranesi then following Dwights advice I took it into photoshop and artistic/dry brush distorted a copy of the image that I layered over the original image at 50% opacity. Quite a nice result. Not too computery at all!

The client was astounded that the change they requested at 10am they had new colored plans and a watercolor style perspective by 12noon. All for a meeting at 1pm. (its been a busy morning! and I still need to update the budget by tommorrow morning)

Lets hope the client doesn't take off another level tommorrow!

[Anonymous]

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