finish schedule

[Anonymous]

I am new to ArchiCAD and have found the manual virtually worthless so I am here hoping someone can help me! How do you create a room finish schedule using the zone tool and listing parameters? If it can't be sompletely created in ArchiCAD (I don't want to export anything to Excel) then I don't need to know the solution. Thanks in advance!

[fuzzytnth3]

Dan wrote:
Picking up on Karl's post, here's a sample of what you can do. If you're just doing a simple schedule this should do it. Kinda' limited but it kinda' works...

Is this what you're trying to do?

HTH
Dan K

Hi I've just been trying to do what you show in your screenshot but I'm not seeing the same items as you have ie the items Wall Finish/E etc. which is what I would like to show

If I try the Additional Parameters I can't seem to list Zone objects, I take it I'm missing something really obvious

[Anonymous]

fuzzytnth3 wrote:
...Hi I've just been trying to do what you show in your screenshot but I'm not seeing the same items as you have ie the items Wall Finish/E etc. which is what I would like to show

If I try the Additional Parameters I can't seem to list Zone objects, I take it I'm missing something really obvious ...

I used the "zone identifier" zone stamp in my example. I wish it were a little more intuitive...maybe this screen shot will help.

Dan K

[fuzzytnth3]

Thanks I hadn't clicked the correct "triangle" to access the Zone Stamps so I couldn't see where the Zone Stamps were listed.

[Anonymous]

Hey Dan, what do you mean when you say the "I.S. doesn't allow for multiple element types in the same schedule"?

I have scheduled Walls, Slabs, Roofs, Objects and Meshes all in the same schedule, so I don't think I am understadning what you mean by "multiple element types"

[Anonymous]

vincon2 wrote:
Hey Dan, what do you mean when you say the "I.S. doesn't allow for multiple element types in the same schedule"?

I have scheduled Walls, Slabs, Roofs, Objects and Meshes all in the same schedule, so I don't think I am understadning what you mean by "multiple element types"

Vincon2,
I've slept a little since I gave up on the interactive schedules. Basically, you can't access additional parameters from different element types in the same schedule. I found this out when I tried to create a Light & Vent schedule trying to report the needed info from zones, wdw, and doors all in the same schedule. There might be a better explanation of this in one of my previous posts regarding the issue.

You have another post in this forum about a "zone name" problem not showing up on different element types...I think that issue is a similar problem to this one.

Bottomline...until Graphisoft fixes, updates, and/or makes the Interactive Scheduler more useable/functional, I wouldn't waste too much time trying to force it to work.

Beyond basic schedules, the Interactive Scheduler is useless until Graphisoft gives it a little more attention (V10 hmmm???) and Karl's book is available.

Dan K

[Anonymous]

The schedules certainly could use a lot of improvement, but I'm still very happy to have them.

Did Karl write a book? What is it called and where can I get it?

[TomWaltz]

vincon2 wrote:
The schedules certainly could use a lot of improvement, but I'm still very happy to have them.

Did Karl write a book? What is it called and where can I get it?

The book still exists only in his head. Last I spoke to him, he had not written much and was not entirely sure it would happen. He may correct me on that, though.

Personally, I would really like it if he did write one!

[Anonymous]

vincon2 wrote:
The schedules certainly could use a lot of improvement, but I'm still very happy to have them.

Did Karl write a book? What is it called and where can I get it?

A few months or so ago Karl mentioned that he would be writing a book about the misc. calculation features of ArchiCAD. I haven't much more about it....so I don't know when or if it will be available. Maybe Karl will give us an update on the book status.


You seem to be enjoy some relative success with the I.S. ....care to share more about what you've managed to set up? There are so few working examples out there anything would be interesting to see.

Dan K

[Anonymous]

You can see a post I made at:

http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?p=54898&highlight=#54898

The schedules are working well, but require strict layer control and drawing rules as well as an extensive template that must be religiously adhered to.

My two biggest complaints are:

1. The schedules that are placed do not update automatically. This is a HUGE, HUGE, HUGE flaw and my #1 disappointment with Archicad. Ideally I should be able to place my schedules in my drawing and then choose to either manually update them individually or do a last minute batch update (like plotmaker) before I do my final print sets.

2. The second complaint is that walls, roofs, meshes and slabs cannot pick up the zone names, etc. This limits my scheduling capabilities but I have worked around that by using objects for things I want to show on my schedule with a corresponding zone name. For example, I originally created a balcony railing by using the wall tool to represent my spindles. When I discovered that the walls wouldn't pick up the zone name, I replaced all the spindles with a custom made object I made. Not a big time difference if I know to do it that way in the first place.

As we have discussed in the past, I have someone who I hope will be able to extract the data directly from my pln file and auto populate my custom estimating program he created. This will require further rigid drawing rules, but if followed, my hope is that all I have to do is open up a new estimate, reference a particular job pln file and the estimating program will automatically extract and populate my various estimate categories and instantly create an accurate estimate with little to no tweaking required by me or anyone on my staff.

I think this is do-able, I just don't know how much time it’s going to take to get there. I’ll let you know when and if we pull this off.

[Karl Ottenstein]

TomWaltz wrote:
The book still exists only in his head. Last I spoke to him, he had not written much and was not entirely sure it would happen. He may correct me on that, though!

What Tom said.

I ran into some frustrations that I'd rather not detail here and, yeah, at this point am not sure that I'll do the book.

Karl