rev-it vs archicad

[Anonymous]

im an archicad drafter who works for a company that is the sole distributor of archicad here in the philippines. and people just can't help compare archicad to auto-desk rev-it (as of now, autodesk is the leading cad software here). some people says that archicad is better and some people says otherwise.
"why is archicad better than rev-it?" people always ask me this question and i yet have to come up wit a decent reply. please help me up with this. im really proud of archicad and i just want to help promote it.

[Anonymous]

Check out this link I received from an ArchipubPUB email from David Nicholson Cole.

forum.sketchup.com/showthread.php?t=74523

Read the second page and you will find this post dated 11-06-06

"Our company (200 people) actually commited our 10 best CAD specialists and designers to spend 3 weeks learning Revit, Bently Architecture and ArchiCAD; and then 3 weeks testing. The tests were quantitative and made the best to be objective.
Revit came in at 30% mark, Bently @ 70% and ArchiCAD @ 90%.
All the participants voter unanimously for ArchiCAD.

Aperently Revit works just fine for smaller projects and somewhat more intuitive then the rest. However when it gets to the significant scale projects - Revit chokes (I've seen it myself). Aperently ArchiCAD is in tune with what architects really need much more then any other piece.
Honestly, I was a huge proponent of revit. However after hearing the evaluation by our CAD managers, I have my doughts."

Really interesting reading.

Don Lee

[Rakela Raul]

"Thanks, Dennis. That's a very helpful analysis, and if you don't mind I will forward it to my principals. We also do large projects, in both North America and Europe now, and the "choking problem" is one that will probably kill Revit for us, despite the evil empire manipulations/ AutoDesk marketing strategy. I think I would be able to forgive the bad-as-bad-can-be user interface (I used to do some programming, and Revit really violates most of the common-sense GUI rules) if the software could handle what we want it to do. But I managed to make it freeze up using the sample projects that AutoDesk's own guide to project management with Revit ships with, on a very new quad-processor computer system with 4 gigs of RAM and a terabyte of SATA II storage. As a matter of fact, shortly after my "Freedom Tower by Revit" indoctrination attempt, I found out from one of my "diverse sources" that in fact SOM had to quietly purchase multiple licenses to ArchiCAD and SketchUp to carry through with project"

thx don lee, i went to the second page and read it all....we should do more cut and paste though !!

[Thomas Holm]

Rakela wrote:
that in fact SOM had to quietly purchase multiple licenses to ArchiCAD and SketchUp to carry through with project"

[Anonymous]

Don wrote:

"Our company (200 people) actually commited our 10 best CAD specialists and designers to spend 3 weeks learning Revit, Bently Architecture and ArchiCAD; and then 3 weeks testing. The tests were quantitative and made the best to be objective.
Revit came in at 30% mark, Bently @ 70% and ArchiCAD @ 90%.
All the participants voter unanimously for ArchiCAD.

Really interesting reading.

Don Lee

Are you kidding me! After 3 weeks you made a decision on VB/BIM software!!! OMG, we have been banging around in both programs for 10 months now. We have come up with the opposite conclusion, probably because we used our average in house architect/ interns rather than "CAD specialists and designers." (We only have 10 people in the office anyway)

When we trained them in archiCAD, they were initially very happy, it was after the honeymoon when we wanted to really get into it that we ran into problems. (We probably should have waited until v.10 to start and we could have avoided all the plotmaker jazz)

We are doing the same test now with Revit to see if it outlasts the archiCAD in delivery.

As for the SOM jibe,nobody seems to have told the SOM folks working on the WTC project that they weren't using Revit anymore http://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?t=33859&highlight=freedom+tower

http://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?p=573458#post573458

And as long as we are talking rumors, the Revit reseller was telling us that STUDIOS Architects in San Fran is dumping ArchiCAD for Revit...


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[Scott Davis]

Thomas wrote:

Rakela wrote:
that in fact SOM had to quietly purchase multiple licenses to ArchiCAD and SketchUp to carry through with project"

This is such crap. While many pieces of software have gone into the design and documents of the Freedom Tower project, to say that ArchiCAD was brought in to "carry through" the project is such a false statement. How do I know? Because I know some of the Design Team from SOM personally.

[Dwight]

I know what you mean.
Its a shame.

I heard from MY friend that they ALSO needed cardboard, tracing paper and graphite to get the job done.

[TomWaltz]

Scott wrote:

Thomas wrote:

Rakela wrote:
that in fact SOM had to quietly purchase multiple licenses to ArchiCAD and SketchUp to carry through with project"

This is such crap. While many pieces of software have gone into the design and documents of the Freedom Tower project, to say that ArchiCAD was brought in to "carry through" the project is such a false statement. .

I was wondering about that.

Was Archicad used at all?

[Anonymous]

Are you kidding me! After 3 weeks you made a decision on VB/BIM software!!! OMG, we have been banging around in both programs for 10 months now. We have come up with the opposite conclusion, probably because we used our average in house architect/ interns rather than "CAD specialists and designers." (We only have 10 people in the office anyway)

Actually the decision was not mine, but the poster that I quoted.

It would be worthwhile to read the post in the forum and the numerous posts that followed it by the original author, others and Dwight Atkinson.

I have often wondered (but didn't care to spend the time to look), is there an ArchiCad vs. Revit discussion in the Revit forum? And if there is, who is Scott Davis' counterpart?

Don Lee

[Anonymous]

Don wrote:

I have often wondered (but didn't care to spend the time to look), is there an ArchiCad vs. Revit discussion in the Revit forum? And if there is, who is Scott Davis' counterpart?

Don Lee

About a dozen or so. We have stopped trying to get good comparison data from those threads, we have found it much more informative to go to the support and tips threads and see what the average usability problems are and how people work around them.
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[Rakela Raul]

and this is all because of Don Lee by the way !!!
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