EXISTING...DEMOLITION...TO NEW?

[rob2218]

see attached.
need to take some objects out, put them in a "demolition" filter phase, then that "hole" that is left I need to show it in plan/elevation/section that it's been filled in by a "NEW WALL'.....but I don't want to have to:
a) take out the window in demolition filter to then have to insert a 'hole' in exactly the same place in order to then...
b) fill that hole which will reside in the wall that stays as "existing"

there's got to be a better way to do this graphically.

[Anonymous]

rob,

you need to set the renovation overrides for each stage that you wish to show:
1 - existing: existing and demolished elements shown (override fills and pens), new elements hidden
2 - after demolition: existing elements shown, demolished elements hidden, new elements hidden
3 - proposed: exsiting elements shown (override fills and pens), demolished elements hidden, new elements shown

Note: the existing walls that will be infilled where the door and windows are to be demolished will need to be made from the same composite / wall type you wish to infill them with to display correctly, this is why you need to override the display options for the exsitng elements

Scott

[rob2218]

ok....understood.....but....

I still don't get it.

If I have an existing wall that has a window in it and that window gets demolished leaving a "hole". Then how can I represent that "hole" in my "proposed" plan without having to:
a) create a 'new' hole, place that new hole in "proposed" renovation filter, then
b) have to insert a wall composite where that new hole resides in 3d space?

[rob2218]

here's how the plan graphics "should" be showing up.
Is there a way to make the plan look like this using "renovation filters" and not having to add in a "new" hole where there was once a door or window that got demolished?

Please advise.
Cause if there is no way to do this other than to
1. "send window to demolition filter.
2. add new hole in existing wall "exactly" where the window used to be and put the hole in "proposed" renovation filter.
3. add in addition a new wall "exactly" where the window (or door) opening was as well.

I mean..this is a LOT OF WORK...almost tripling the amount of work for renovations.

[Anonymous]

I put a fill coloured the same as the new wall over the demo'ed door or window on the same layer as the wall.

[rob2218]

MAYBE THIS GRAPHICS WILL HELP EXPLAIN MY SITUATION.

[rob2218]

REALLY.....a 2D fill....that's what needs to be inserted in plan? the renovation filters can't be configured to show what I'm looking for automatically?

Rogerdodge wrote:
I put a fill coloured the same as the new wall over the demo'ed door or window on the same layer as the wall.

[Anonymous]

I went through the same pain as you have explained, & ended up using the fill, it is the easiest & quickest way.
I have my demo hatch & solid fill ready, switch the filter to "All Works" then put the appropriate hatching or fill over the new or demo parts.
I do the same in elevations.

[Barry Kelly]

I don't use the reno filters at all but this is what I would do.

Obviously the wall is tagged as 'existing' and the window as 'to be demolished'.

Now create a renovation filter called "new Construction" or whatever you would like to call it.

Set the filter as per the attached image - I think I have highlighted all the important fields.

Then in the 'Renovation Override Styles' for existing and new set the colours and fills you want.
The to be demolished override really doesn't matter here as you have set it to not show the windows.

The window is automatically filled with a new wall - the trick is you need to override the "new" elements so that appear as you want them to.

I think this is what you are after.

Barry.

[Barry Kelly]

You could choose to leave the 'New Elements' as "Show" rather than 'Override".
That way they will appear exactly as your wall composites are set up (same for all other 'New' elements (slabs, roofs, windows, etc.) - they will all appear as you normally show them.

You use the same composites for your 'existing' and 'to be demolished' walls (and other elements) but they are being overridden by the filter to appear differently.

Barry.