Hide Door & Window Rough Openings in Elevation

[NILAM]

We often have a jamb extension at door and have the drywall extend to the jamb.  There is no casing at these doors.   In plan, I would like to see the rough opening of the door only at the framing and not cut through the finish drywall layer.  This would allow us to easily place dimensions for the framings.  In interior elevations however, I do not want to see the rough opening.  I want the drywall to cover this gap and just extend to the frame/jamb extension.  Is there a way to do this?

Currently, I model the door without rough openings and go back and put fills to represent the rough openings.  Seems like there should be a way to do this without all these tedious fills.

Similarly, we do not typically have casing around the exterior of our windows.  The siding just butts up against the window jamb.  Is there a way to have a rough opening that we can dimension in plan, but have the siding come across and die at the jamb in elevation?  The way it currently seems to be working for us is that the window frame just reads thicker in elevation to cover the rough opening, but that is not true to the design.

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[Barry Kelly]

This may not be a solution to your problem, just a question really.

What scale are you modelling for your plans?

I would assume a fairly small scale  - 1:100 or the imperial equivalent.

I would model it so that is dimensions as you want.

You will be hard pressed to see any detail of the jamb / rough opening in a small scale plan.

Then detail an example of the true rough opening in a larger scale detail if you want.

It is very frustrating on screen as you can zoom in and see an incredible amount of detail.

But keep in mind the the intended scale of the output.

Yes I know you can zoom in on a PDF as well - I am still old school paper plans.

Barry.

[NILAM]

We are modeling plans at a much larger scale than 1:100.  1/4" = 1'-0".  You definitely see the rough opening when we print.  We design mostly custom single family homes which are quite detail oriented.   My problem is more with the elevations not being correct, which are modeled at 1/4" = 1'-0" or  even larger at 1/2" = 1'-0". 

The only reason we are using fills for the rough opening in plan is because that's the only way I can get the door to show correctly in elevation or interior elevation.

Is there anyway to make it so the rough openings don't show up in the elevation or interior elevations?  Again, we aren't using casing to cover the rough openings.

[Barry Kelly]

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@NILAM wrote:

Is there anyway to make it so the rough openings don't show up in the elevation or interior elevations?  Again, we aren't using casing to cover the rough openings.

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I am not sure, but I don't use the Graphisoft doors and windows (not familiar with their settings) and I don't show rough openings in my plans.

If you are modelling the rough opening on plan, then I assume you would also see that opening on elevation as you are saying.

It is not so much the casings you want to look at but the wall closures.

But as I said, I am not familiar with those settings, so I am unsure if they will achieve what you are wanting.

Maybe if you could also post an image of exactly what you want, it may help others to help you.

Something like this?

Barry.

[NILAM]

Hey Barry,

Thanks for trying to help with this question. It's one of those things that has been frustrating for people in the office for years, so I'm hoping someone out there has a solution that works.  

I've modeled two windows next each other, one with a rough opening in the model element and the other without out.  Attached is this detail in plan view, exterior elevation, interior elevation, and a detail (drawn with linework) that shows how this window connection is constructed.  

Ideal world would be if we could see the rough opening plan and then hide it in elevation and interior elevation.