Viewpoint ID

[Anonymous]

Team,
Within our office there is a debate regarding the organization of the viewpoints, views and Layouts. For example, in our office the actual layout number, (i.e A5.10) is placed as the viewpoint ID along with a name for the viewpoint. This then translates to the View map as the Reference ID. Obviously, once the views are placed on a Layout, the numbers should ideally match. Unfortunately, if a sheet changes (which sometimes happens) from one layout to another there would be some rework to do to rename the Viewpoint ID’s. The Question:
Is there anyway to have an option which allows the Project Map Reference ID name link back to the layouts? That way when placed on a layout, the ID will reference the sheet which it is placed and it will automatically update if a sheet number changes?
Frankly, I feel ID’s should be used to help organize the project and make signing into teamwork easier. When disseminating work (red lines) to multiple people it can be beneficial to provide individuals with sheets, which they can then sign into when accessing the file.

Anyway, I understand there is no one way to do anything in Archicad so what do you guys think? All your feedback would be welcome.

[Anonymous]

Here's a response from one of our guys!

Yes, the key for now is they roughly follow the sheet number, or in our case manually update if the sheet changes…. For now. Until Graphisoft adds that function to the software in 2020?? When they do add that option people will wonder why it wasn’t available until now. Everyone has this problem. And James uses A2-1 for elevations but commonly architects use A3 for elevation sheets, why the different system? That’s like writing in English but speaking in German. The big deal is the details. Sections elevations, those are easy. Typically only a few sheets of elevations and typically 2 or even 1 elevation per sheet, although I guess wall sections could get cumbersome. Details have the capability to have 24 drawings per sheet and we have 20 sheets of details for large projects. That is over 400 ids to sift through. We need to tie it to the sheet so we know wtf we are working on and don’t waste half the day signing in. That is what the team will be doing with the Vegas project here on out, and it is the way I will organize my projects here on out.

Thanks Jorge for posting this subject on that forum….. It is more apparent now then ever that everyone has different methods, no two are alike, they all suck, and I am pretty sure if the software had the option to AUTOMATICALLY tie the ids with the sheets everyone would use it unless they were committed on wasting time.

[Laura Yanoviak]

jorgec wrote:
And James uses A2-1 for elevations but commonly architects use A3 for elevation sheets, why the different system? That’s like writing in English but speaking in German.

I'm not sure what your point here is, but according to the National CAD Standard, A-2 sheets are for Exterior Elevations.

[Anonymous]

Laura, thanks for the reply. I think that one of the biggest challenges at my office is that we have developed a totally customized system. from objects to our use of a specialized version of Archicad that requires no key. Luckily, I have been able to convince the management that we needed to go back to a network version Unfortunately, the other areas I have not been quite as lucky!

In reality, I have had a difficult time trying to convince our staff and more importantly our management that we need to break away from some of these custom practices. The use of the layout number in the View ID, which was the original purpose of this topic is just one example. I personally have recommended a system similar to what Tom Waltz and even James Murray have suggested yet it has caused much grief. Frankly, it's just a nature of how we use Archicad at this office and it falls upon me to do a better job of expressing why we need to change.

Regardless, I am glad that some of our staff has been looking at this, My next step is to get them to sign up and join the dicussions personally. Yes, even that has been a challenge

Anyway, I appreciate everyone's input. I will continue to ask questions and hopefully get us to the level we need to be at in the future.

Regards,