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student version of 8.1 on Mac OS X (10.3)

Anonymous
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Hi,

I teach archiCAD here at the university in Portsmouth and I have just upgraded my machine to Panther. ArchiCAD has been a bit odd and our reseller told me that I will have to wait til ArchiCAD 9 until I can get it to work with Panther. He said that Graphisoft are unlikely to update 8.1 to student version at all! Is this really the case? I really do hope not. Does anyone have any info as to any possible release for OS 10.3 - student version.

I hope Graphisoft get themselves in gear because it is a constant battle to keep ArchiCAD here in the school. Other people would prefer we dumped it all together.. I hope this doesn't make it the nail in the coffin as it were...

Thanks

Andy
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Anonymous
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The likelyhood of an 8.1 update being available for EDU versions?

"He said that Graphisoft are unlikely to update 8.1 to student version at all! Is this really the case? I really do hope not. Does anyone have any info as to any possible release for OS 10.3 - student version. "
Anonymous
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I think this answers the question...


8.1 student version will be available near the end of January.

Thanks and Regards,
D.
Daniel Pon
Technical Consultant
CA Remote Office of
Graphisoft U.S., Inc. - Boston (U.S)
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Anonymous
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What is lacking is not the 2D drawing tools but proper documentation and training. I have found that most of the AutoCAD users I have trained have been impressed with how much easier and faster it is to draw in ArchiCAD; and some of these have been pretty advanced users. (I have also known some dyed in the wool AutoCAD users who have reused to accept ArchiCAD's work flow and went back to AutoCAD, but that is a different matter.)

Since ArchiCAD puts so much of the functionality into keyboard controls (shift contrains, option locks, etc.) and cursor responses (check mark, mercedes, perpendicular and tangent) which are not readily apparent to new users, there is a need to provide this information in a more obvious, up-front way. Perhaps a thin manual titled "The Most Important Techniques to Know in ArchiCAD" to be included with the program. A big part of the problem is that much of the elegance and function on these methods arise from the many ways they work together to make complex tasks simple and immediate. This is more difficult to document and explain than just the basic functions.
Anonymous
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Matthew wrote:
Since ArchiCAD puts so much of the functionality into keyboard controls (shift contrains, option locks, etc.) and cursor responses (check mark, mercedes, perpendicular and tangent) which are not readily apparent to new users, there is a need to provide this information in a more obvious, up-front way. Perhaps a thin manual titled "The Most Important Techniques to Know in ArchiCAD" to be included with the program.
A big part of the problem is that much of the elegance and function on these methods arise from the many ways they work together to make complex tasks simple and immediate. This is more difficult to document and explain than just the basic functions.


I remember the first time I used ArchiCAD : I clearly said "It's the most difficult program I've ever used"... 2 days later, I was presenting a complete project in 3D to a new client...

I then used ArchiCAD for a month, and missed the AutoCAD tools a lot, until I worked for 3 hours with a "fluent" ArchiCAD user that showed me how to extend walls without any menu command, connect roofs, and even create GDL objects... I was convinced.

All I can tell is that I had already tried to learn this by myself after having read the manuals, but there were so many exercises I couldn't do correctly I was rather disappointed (so I select the first wall with the selection tool, then select the wall tool and ctrl click on the reference line of the wall I want my wall extended to...)...

There should be a small video made and display the keyboard shortcut used to achieve it !

Matthew has the right term when you can use ArchiCAD : "Elegance"...
Anonymous
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stefan wrote:
haven't had a chance to boot the EDU-version (it didn't recognise my commercial dongle).
It won't, because the student version uses an entirely different file format than the commercial version. They have the same names, but they're deliberately different. What it translates to is preventing people from using the student version commercially, of course, but it also means that any work done in that version is forever lost once one upgrades to a commercial version. I anticipated building a library of parts during my academic career, and I didn't want to lose that work, so I bought the commercial version.

Wendy
stefan
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Wendy wrote:
stefan wrote:
haven't had a chance to boot the EDU-version (it didn't recognise my commercial dongle).
It won't, because the student version uses an entirely different file format than the commercial version. They have the same names, but they're deliberately different. What it translates to is preventing people from using the student version commercially, of course, but it also means that any work done in that version is forever lost once one upgrades to a commercial version. I anticipated building a library of parts during my academic career, and I didn't want to lose that work, so I bought the commercial version.

Wendy
It would be nice if ArchiCAD would be a student version when you boot without Dongle and it would turn into an academic or commercial version when using a dongle. I have a commercial dongle (bought it myself) and we also received a 32-license network dongle, but since I'm allready using 8.1 it is a pitty I have to return to 8.0 r2/v2 ...

edit:
By the way, 3ds max (and VIZ and similar) is developed as one application: depending on your registration, you have a trial, a student, an academic or a commercial version. Everyone uses the same version and can use the same service packs and updates.
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