AC20 Minor annoyances

[Richard Morrison]

Overall, I like AC20 a lot! However, there are a couple of minor issues that make it very difficult to work.

1) We seem to have lost the 3D line/flat color library previews, and so now all 3D previews are rendered. This makes it very hard to see any detail in a 3D view if the object is white on the white background. Is there any way to get the old-style preview back?

2) I've noticed that sometimes 3D elements like morphs do not show up right away in the 2D view if they were drawn in 3D. Sometimes it takes drawing a similar element in plan, and then all the elements show up. This is probably a bug, but is there any way to overcome this in the meantime?

[Eduardo Rolon]

Barry wrote:

Stress wrote:
Quick Options Bar> Orientation

Much preferred the ability to reset to 0° with one click (AC19)
As opposed to opening a pulldown and scrolling to 0° (AC20)

The thing is the single click now gives us the option of pre-set angles and also the last user defined angles.
I think this is a good option but maybe it could be made so a double click will reset to zero.

Barry.

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[David Maudlin]

Barry wrote:

Stress wrote:
Quick Options Bar> Orientation
Much preferred the ability to reset to 0° with one click (AC19)
As opposed to opening a pulldown and scrolling to 0° (AC20)

The thing is the single click now gives us the option of pre-set angles and also the last user defined angles.
I think this is a good option but maybe it could be made so a double click will reset to zero.

I would like a similar behavior restored to the Zoom in the Quick Option Bar: double click to set Zoom to 100%. An alternative would be single click to set to 100% (AC19 and before), click and hold to get the pop-up list.

David

[Stress Co_]

If I select an object, line, wall, etc. and use keyboard shortcuts to "drag a copy" (or "drag multiply copies").
The + sign(s) pop up briefly, then disappear.
You have to move the cursor to get them to reappear.

In previous versions, they stay.

[DGSketcher]

Fully agree Marc. It gets really frustrating having to double check it. It's also annoying that duplicate mode clashes with using the ALT key to toggle pan/zoom but I think this predates AC20.

I also have an issue with the origin hiding when creating a new independent worksheets and details. I find I have to place/draw something in the view before I can get it to appear. Really annoying when you want to draw something coordinated with the origin.

[David Maudlin]

Stress wrote:
If I select an object, line, wall, etc. and use keyboard shortcuts to "drag a copy" (or "drag multiply copies").
The + sign(s) pop up briefly, then disappear.
You have to move the cursor to get them to reappear.

In previous versions, they stay.

I am not seeing this issue. I don't know if still being on OSX10.10 is the difference.

David

[Stress Co_]

DGSketcher wrote:
It's also annoying that duplicate mode clashes with using the ALT key to toggle pan/zoom

What kind of mouse are you using?
I've got my mac magic mouse set up to zoom in/out with center axis swipe and pan when I click-hold, move mouse.
I think it's the equivalent of rolling a mouse wheel or clicking a mouse wheel.
Eliminates pressing the ALT key.

DGSketcher wrote:
I also have an issue with the origin hiding when creating a new independent worksheets and details.

Does double clicking the "user origin" button in the coordinates bar palette bring it back? I've noticed this, but can't replicate it.

[DGSketcher]

I'm using a MM with the default as pan, but either way pressing the ALT key disrupts the duplicate mode if you need to change the view using the ALT key. Seems a little bit of an oops by GS to have the same modifier key for different functions.

The origin hiding isn't consistent, just checked in a new drawing and it is working as expected. It may have something to do with scales or reference to the last created detail where the origin is off screen. I would have expected a new view to place the origin in the centre of the view.

[Barry Kelly]

I have noticed in older versions that when dragging with the mouse, if you press the CTRL key before you let go of the mouse button the CTRL (copy) will turn off.
If you drag and let go of the mouse button, then press CTRL all is fine.
In version 20 (for me) I can not replicate this - seems to work no matter what I do.

I am on PC with a rather basic wheel mouse.

Barry.

[DennisG]

I used to be able to select and mirror text labels (you know, the ones with arrow leaders pointing at things in the 2D drawings). The text box would flip to the other side of the leader arrow, with proper justification.

Since upgrading to 20, the leaders have become "sticky" - I can no longer mirror a note so that the leader comes from the opposite side. The leader stubbornly remains on the original side, while the note justification changes.

I've also had problems with the leader being glued to an object, so that if the object is moved, the note moves too - which is not always desired.

Is there a way to dial back the stickiness of the note/leader?

Thanks in advance, pardon the outdated signature.

[Richard Morrison]

DennisG wrote:
I used to be able to select and mirror text labels (you know, the ones with arrow leaders pointing at things in the 2D drawings). The text box would flip to the other side of the leader arrow, with proper justification.

Since upgrading to 20, the leaders have become "sticky" - I can no longer mirror a note so that the leader comes from the opposite side. The leader stubbornly remains on the original side, while the note justification changes.

I've also had problems with the leader being glued to an object, so that if the object is moved, the note moves too - which is not always desired.

Is there a way to dial back the stickiness of the note/leader?

Thanks in advance, pardon the outdated signature.

Dennis,
You might try the "optimize position" checkbox in the label settings. For the "stickiness" issue, I suspect that you might have "associative" accidentally checked, rather than "independent." (Under "Geometry Methods.") Just a guess.