ArchiCAD 8.1 R2/V2 update patch now available

[Greg Kmethy]

Dear Talkers,

The ArchiCAD 8.1 R2/V2 update patch for the International English version is available to download. Other language versions will be uploaded continuously. For details please visit:

http://www.graphisoft.com/support/archicad/downloads/ac_maintenance_releases/

Sincerely,
Gergely Kmethy

[Erika Epstein]

Karl wrote:
I just copy all of the detail to the right (like an unlinked section - so rebuild won't bring back what I delete/etc). I confess, I've only used the Detail tool for half a dozen "real" details so far, so my experience is pretty minimal here!

Karl

I use the detail tool extensively. Probably why I panicked when I thought it wasn't working. It's great not only for details but also enlarged plans. Like you I drag a copy as for an unlinked section. I find using the detail tool for enlarged plans also eliminates the need for an extra set of layers for them.

[tsturm]

not seeing too many comments about the 2284 build yet.

Here is my observation of this patch. It is slowing me down. Everytime I open a dialog box for an open save and try to navigate around my hard drive, it takes a long sip on the coffee to get my window to update.

I believe this slow down to be a problem of AC 8.1v2 2284. Is anyone else seeing the same slow down?

[__archiben]

when was the last time you:

repaired permissions
cleaned your caches
ran the cron scripts
updated the prebindings



all of these things need doing periodically, in fact the cron scripts are periodic cleanup tasks that run in the middle of the night - but only if the machine is on and awake.

and if these aren't done regularly or after major installations and updates, they can all contribute to slowing the machine down.

as a general rule, i repair my permissions using apple's 'disk utility' after every installation that requires an administrator password, (it means the installer's been messing with the system's or machine's library).

there is a shareware utility called cocktail that performs all of these tasks (and more) from a simple GUI. a better explanation that i can give here about OSX maintenance can be found on the o'reilly macdevcenter:

http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2003/11/21/maintenance.html

it's an excellent article that every mac OSX user should know about for smoother and faster running of their machine.

after that rambling discourse - no, i've had problems with 8.1v2c (2284).

HTH
~/archiben

[tsturm]

Ben

What are you talking about with all this

repaired permissions
cleaned your caches
ran the cron scripts
updated the prebinding

Sounds like you want me to get out and clean my warp coils as well.

The repair permissions I can handle. However, as Scotty so often points out. The rest are going to take some time, eah, Captain!

What do the rest do and where can I find them?

So you say that I should go get a cocktail and my life will be all better. This is not going to be any of the Romulan ale. well it?

Well thanks for the advise. Now, Chekov, take me to find this cocktail which Ben speaks of at warp three. Engage!

[Eduardo Rolon]

all the cron routines now are handled by the OS 10.3.4 update. They fixed it so that they run when the comp wakes up if they couldn't be run because it was asleep .
Instead of cocktail I am more partial to onyx and you can find them both @ versiontracker or macupdate. And I don't know about coctail but onyx is free.
BTW R2C runs faster IMO or at least in my PB.
Another nice utility is quicksilver but that is offtopic.

[__archiben]

tsturm wrote:
Sounds like you want me to get out and clean my warp coils as well.

and check the dipstick.

follow the two links in my thread above (the webpage and the word "cocktail" in grey) and all will become apparent.

jump to it scotty!

~/archiben

[Anonymous]

ejrolon, you wrote:

"all the cron routines now are handled by the OS 10.3.4 update. They fixed it so that they run when the comp wakes up if they couldn't be run because it was asleep ."

I did not find this in the documentation on the Mac update list site.

Does this mean that OS 10.3.4 runs the crons at start-up
or only at wake-up ?

What cron routines are run ?

Thank you,
Peter Devlin

[tsturm]

No dipsticks around here to check since we stopped using that fossil fuel.

I am concerned about all this talk of CRONs. Makes me nervous. Takes me back to the Cromagnum days. Thats too far back.

Now what does all this stuff about permissions and crons have to do with getting my 2284 to navigate around the dialog boxes faster?

I am sure that this R2C version operations around its own environment better. How does it perform when you ask it to open a file from a remote machine? How fast is it when you need to look for a picture to use in your drawings? This is where I am having my machine SLOW down. Could it be that the server we have is still running OSX 10.2.8 and all the other machines are running 10.3.4? I did not use the 2275 upgrade. My last version was the 2256. This seemed to run just fine once I got the issue with the server sharing worked out.

Is there anyone who might be having issues looking for stuff from within AC 8.1v2c 2284?
Is there a difference between Onyx and Cocktail, besides a cost?

[Eduardo Rolon]

Peter Devlin

I did not find this in the documentation on the Mac update list site.

Does this mean that OS 10.3.4 runs the crons at start-up
or only at wake-up ?

What cron routines are run ?

From http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=25764

Addresses an issue in which scheduled items, such as automated backups or Software Update checks, may not work if the computer is asleep at the scheduled time. With this update, the schedule will run once the computer wakes from sleep.

The only difference between Onyx and Coctail is price. I have been using Onyx for the past 6 months without problems.
About opening remote files I can't help, I'm just a one man shop.

[__archiben]

tsturm wrote:
I am sure that this R2C version operations around its own environment better. How does it perform when you ask it to open a file from a remote machine? How fast is it when you need to look for a picture to use in your drawings? This is where I am having my machine SLOW down.

this was exactly my point: installers and the like that mess with the system library permissions slow the machine down generally not necessarily the application. you're getting the slow down at the point archiCAD starts using system resources for a task, right?

open apple's 'disk utility' in the 'utilities' folder of the 'applications' folder. click on your hard drive in the list on the left and then click 'repair permissions. let me know what happens after you've restarted the machine.

there is one more thing that i am aware of that can cause network slowdowns, but i don't want to go there just yet - let's do the permissions first.

Could it be that the server we have is still running OSX 10.2.8 and all the other machines are running 10.3.4?

no - that's exactly the same setup as us.

Is there a difference between Onyx and Cocktail, besides a cost?

i've never used this 'onyx' app, but you can give 'cocktail' a go without paying up front. if you do decide to try it: click the 'pilot' tab along the top, check everything except 'repair permissions' (i always prefer apple's apps to handle this even if they do get their permission information from the same file) and then hit the 'run' button. you may want to check in the options tab first if you don't want to lose safari's cache and favicons . . .

i generally run cocktail with the options that you can see in the image below and set to auto-restart. i then use 'disk utility' to repair the permissions straight afterwards and restart once more.

let me know how it goes . . .

~/archiben