BIMStorm London: Team 7 BIM Vikings - Best Overall Winner

[Mats_Knutsson]

http://www.buildlondonlive.com/blog/index.html

GO Norway!!!!!

[David Pacifico]

Can you fill the rest of us in?

[Mats_Knutsson]

David wrote:
Can you fill the rest of us in?

Well...not so much info yet but the overall champ is the norweigan Viking team. Obviously a very good multi-application-communication (true BIM) effort from the Vikings.

quote:
"Team BIM Vikings won the Multi-disciplinary Design and Constructability for the wide range of organisations, disciplines, and applications used plus the massive use of BuildingSMART standards."

What I read the team managed to collaborate through heavy use of IFC. We'll get some sort of report later on. Tha actual use of IFC is extra interesting since some (that doesn't support open BIM...) never spoils a chance to say IFC is crap.

I actually don't know all the softwares involved but since the norweigan AC distributor Arktis was a part I guess some of the architectural stuff was made with AC. Not that it matters so much. The IFC is the interesting part and I'm sure more info will be posted here soon

[Odd Goderstad]

Yes we did it! In the middle of som celebration at the moment..Mostly ArchiCAD 11 was used for the Architectural bits, but also some sketchup. Have a look at www.buildlondonlive.com.
All in all 20 different softwares was used.
It was a great experience!

[Erika Epstein]

Congratulations team Viking!
Great work!

[Steve Jepson]

BIM. Building Information Model.

I see the model, where is the Information extracted from the Model?

[Anonymous]

BIM - Building Information Modeling. You don't have to extract the information. But it has to be integral part of the model. If you CAN extract it then it is BIM.

[Steve Jepson]

Exactly my point.

I think the the measure of BIM software aught to be it's schedules, not it's hypothetical potential to create them.

The BIM is not legitimate until they produce he schedules that prove it works, all the way through the the process.

Where are the contests for software that can extract the BI into legitimate and useful schedules?

I would like to see which progams can do the best job with the BI found in an ArchiCAD BIM.

ArchiCAD has the potential to do so much more in this area. I hope better schedules with be the #1 priority for the next version of ArchiCAD.

[Anonymous]

Steve wrote:
I think the the measure of BIM software aught to be it's schedules

There is a whole lot more to BIM/VB than just schedules. Planning, design coordination, constructibility, construction coordination, 4D, 5D, forensics, disaster management pop to mind. There is yet much more (like facilities management etc.)

Schedules and specs are important, but are still just small parts of the overall model. I do agree that popping out some schedules is good way to demonstrate that it's not just a dumb model, but it's not "the measure of the model". Not enough dimensions.

[Odd Goderstad]

Miki wrote:
BIM - Building Information Modeling. You don't have to extract the information. But it has to be integral part of the model. If you CAN extract it then it is BIM.

OK, now I am back from celebrations and a long vacation..

Here is what team BIM Vikings supplied during those 48 hrs.:

IFC Models (mostly from Archicad, dds and tekla) 32

Drawings (dwg) 11

Google Earth (kmz) 1

Video 18

Images 82

Reports and Documents (mostly from other software, but also some schedules from ArchiCAD) 55

Energy Analysis 2

4D - Constructability Analysis 1

5D - Cost Calculations 7

With the exchange possibilities IFC gives us, it is better to leave sceduling, cost analysis etc. to specialized software for that purpose.

In this project, we used 20 different softwares that exchanged IFC-BIM...