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Custom Roof Edges

Anonymous
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Hello,

I am recently new to Archicad and am lookig for some advice on making a custom roof edge profile. I have looked at all of the materials that came with Archicad but can only find how to change the fascia angle.

Is there no wa to make a custom edge profile like ADT or Revit? I have attached an image of the edge. An advice would be appriciated.

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Karl Ottenstein
Moderator
Cphubb wrote:
Is there no way to make a custom edge profile like ADT or Revit? I have attached an image of the edge. An advice would be appriciated.
Unfortunately, no ... this has been on the 'wishlist' for some time.

For the roof that you show, it appears that your edge is a simple cut, and so you can do this with a few steps by drawing another roof at the pitch of the cut for your fascia in a layer named something like "Hidden cutting objects" which is set to show up in wireframe, and use the Solid Element Operations to subtract the cutting roof from your real roof.

By having your cutting roof be in wireframe, you can see it and the result of the operation in the 3D window (if it is not wireframe, then just turn off the layer to see the result - use QuickLayers while in 3D). You can go into a section window to precisely drag the cutting roof to where it must intersect your physical roof edge.

Shaped edges require using the Profiler add-on to generate an extruded shape to slap onto the drip edge. Adding a shaped profile to a rake edge is trickier.

We can only hope that one day GS will feel our pain and grant our wish...

Karl
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Anonymous
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Thanks for the reply. Strange that this is not possible since the competiton has been doing it for years.

Another question. Why do roof objects not hide the walls that are below them. Do I need to have the walls on the story below? Will those walls then show on that story? Or do I have to do some complicated layer thing-a-magig to get the walls out of the roof plan view?
Anonymous
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Another question. Why do roof objects not hide the walls that are below them. Do I need to have the walls on the story below? Will those walls then show on that story? Or do I have to do some complicated layer thing-a-magig to get the walls out of the roof plan view?


Apparently that will be an option in the next upgrade. Slabs will also have the ability to cover or hide what is under them. I hope that will open up the possibility to be able to see what is in the story below that is not covered by such a slab and the possibility for multistory walls and windows.
Stephen Dolbee
Booster
Karl wrote:
Unfortunately, no ... this has been on the 'wishlist' for some time.
Certainly on mine (since 4.55)

Steve
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Karl Ottenstein
Moderator
Cphubb wrote:
Thanks for the reply. Strange that this is not possible since the competiton has been doing it for years.
You're welcome ... and obviously I agree! I can only speculate, but it seems to me that it is the small residential firms that really need and want complex roof fascia profiles at various pitches and angles ... and that GS listens more to the large commercial firms who do not typically deal these kinds of things. I hope that they eventually realize that the gross numbers of we residential guys might equal the commercial guys....and if they addressed our needs, perhaps our numbers would grow to be the majority...

Please go to:
http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?p=4173#4173
and add your vote to the poll.
Another question. Why do roof objects not hide the walls that are below them. Do I need to have the walls on the story below? Will those walls then show on that story? Or do I have to do some complicated layer thing-a-magig to get the walls out of the roof plan view?
Hiding is another wish.

I recommend putting roofs on their own story because it makes it really simple to adjust the height of all of the roofs by just changing the story height. The downside is that if you want the walls below to show, you have to either (a) overlay them in PM - by using a common hotspot to align the two drawings, or (b) copy the walls and explode them to linework (obvious non-model disadvantages, but some editing/presentation advantages).

If you overlay, you can get the effect of dashed lines for the walls by using a tip posted by someone else here with respect to getting dashed foundation lines in sections/elevations: put a diagonal fill using a fat white pen on top of the walls.

Karl

PS An example of when I've benefited from putting roofs on their own story. One project involved roofs on several levels - a low roof plan and a high roof plan. Each was in its own story above the walls below. The engineer required a higher top plate to get a header in at one spot. We didn't want to change the pitch of that (and related) roofs ... and so decided to raise the entire roof assembly (we also didn't want to change the way any roofs - high or low - intersected, as that was an aesthetic thing). Just changing the story height of the low roof plan raised both those and the high roof elements above it. In those days, we used trim-to-roof and had to undo trim on all the upper walls and re-trim them. Now, with solid element ops and subtration, we just raise the roof and we're finished. 😉
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