!Restored: ¿News about AC 12?

[Anonymous]

Hi all!


¿Anybody knows anything about AC 12, please?


I'm hearing rumours, but nothing concrete...


Thanks a lot and regards.



P.S. Like another user says: "forgive my spanglish..."

[Anonymous]

TomWaltz wrote:

metanoia wrote:
Doors in a linked and copied unit plan in Revit cannot have unique door numbers. The doors will appear in the schedule as many times as they appear in the model, but they all have the same door number. So the concept of a MOD file is absent in Revit.

Archicad has that same limitation. You can repeat elements, but they won't have unique IDs or anything like that.

IMHO, I think this is a serious problem/limitation of MOD files. It is counter-intuitive to the BIM philosophy of Documentation and Databases.

[Wokka]

So with MaxonForm dead in the water, what do we now use for free form modelling in ArchiCad??

[owen]

Maxonform as a standalone app is dead (finally) but the Cinema4D Plugin version is now free - so if you own Cinema4D you can carry on as usual. I guess you don't have C4D though. I highly recommend it - aside from the modeling you were using Maxonform for it is a fantastic rendering and animation package that has an Exchange plugin making ArchiCAD>C4D workflow a breeze. C4D now also has a VRay plugin which makes it even more attractive (if you are after fast, super high quality renders )

[Wokka]

Owen,
Yeah I have C4D since version 7 and now love Vray. I'm talking about free form modelling within Archicad. It's still a one direction plugin. There was a lot of talk a while ago about new modelling tools for ArchiCad. I can make the pretty pictures but I can't always document it with live 3D components ; )

Cheers

[owen]

The plugin version of Maxonform (now a free download) interfaces to your full C4D application and it performs exactly the same as the old Maxonform application - send to C4D, model and send back to AC as 'GDL' (they can't be keeping a straight face when they call it that though..)?

We shouldn't need this though .. we all await the day when ArchiCAD will have free form tools (scriptable of course). We may all be using another product by then though

[Dennis Lee]

LINZ wrote:

TomWaltz wrote:

metanoia wrote:
Doors in a linked and copied unit plan in Revit cannot have unique door numbers. The doors will appear in the schedule as many times as they appear in the model, but they all have the same door number. So the concept of a MOD file is absent in Revit.

Archicad has that same limitation. You can repeat elements, but they won't have unique IDs or anything like that.

IMHO, I think this is a serious problem/limitation of MOD files. It is counter-intuitive to the BIM philosophy of Documentation and Databases.

I'm not sure if I follow this "problem". Isn't there an option to show identical elements once to address this issue? All the doors w/ the same parameters can be listed in one line in the schedule, along w/ a quantity column - listing how many of them there are, right? I think that's how I did my 16 unit townhouse door schedule. Is there a time when you want the exact same doors to have different door numbers

[Anonymous]

Karl wrote:
It is not at all easy. Starting from scratch is one thing.

Yes starting from scratch is almost trivial.

Karl wrote:
Taking an existing complex database / data structure that was designed for serial (single processor) access - and modifying it and the access code to permit concurrent access is about as complex as programming gets. The potential to get it wrong is tremendous - and the successful testing of 12 shows that they got it right.

Karl, database with network capabilities are here for centuries as you surely know.
If a product is "correctly build" and all your functions are based on layered sdk, you just have to change your basic read write functions.
What i say is if you have a program and decide to change your database from your native database to Mysql database (for example), you just have to redefine your read write functions. If you use primitive read write functions all through the program, then yes, its hard.

This is why in Object Oriented Programming you should never read data from the object directly but through functions, which form a simple interface.

[Anonymous]

2 questions:

1. are there any improvements in the ineraction of elements? like slab-wall interactions?
2. the grid tool did or didn't make it to the final version?

[Stress Co_]

Karl wrote:
It is not for all tasks at the moment - no doubt more to come in the future, but is used for many of them and the speed increase is quite noticeable from starting ArchiCAD, to regenerating sections/elevations and opening the 3D window.

More Joy (read:Speed) when using trace?

Any changes to Navigator Preview? (i.e. zoom & pan)

Intel Core 2 Duo iMac or Quad-Core Intel Xeon Mac Pro?

[stefan]

Peter wrote:
I thought the 3D document was a static 3 dimensional 'view' of the model. Can vectorial fills now be displayed in real time in the OpenGL 3D window? Like the old internal engine (but faster).

The OpenGL 3D Window displays the model as usual.
The 3D Document is a "snapshot", not unlike sections. It can be updated. If you use the marquee, it displays the fills in a composite structure.

oreopoulos wrote:
Anyway... i will create a post with some questions for GS. I hope they will answer officially ( i know they wont) and at least for me it will be a criterion if i will continue to support the product or not. Enough of this comedy.

It sounds as if you have made up your mind already.

oreopoulos wrote:
The Complex Components that are know 3d aware, can they be modified in 3d too? I mean, you have a finish layer can you modify its height independently from the walls height?

Nope.