BIMcloud Hybrid

[Lingwisyer]

https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Product-Roadmap/BIMcloud-Hybrid/idc-p/716775#M335

@Zaid Haddad wrote:
option of locally utilised model/teamwork data.

Is this just Delta Cache for SaaS? Or is this local p2p sharing? (p2p example: Steam)

[Boldizsar Vermes]

@Lingwisyer, the plan is to enable connection of on-premises BIMcloud Server components to a BIMcloud SaaS instance. This would allow for the local management of model data while leveraging the benefits of Graphisoft ID-based user management and cloud licensing.

[John Adams]

"to enable connection of on-premises BIMcloud Server components to a BIMcloud SaaS instance"

Can you provide a less technical explanation?  

Would this replace Bimcloud Basic local installations and still allow someone to work with the Teamwork model off-line until an internet connection is re-established?

[Lingwisyer]

to enable connection of on-premises BIMcloud Server components to a BIMcloud SaaS instance

This sounds a lot like BIMCloud Delta Cache, but...

while leveraging the benefits of Graphisoft ID-based user management and cloud licensing

With this it sounds like you pay for BIMCloud SaaS, but forego the majority of the GS hosted workload to host your own BIMCloud On-Prem. Feels like the worst of both worlds... The speed of On-Prem, with the possibility of being locked out because your permissions could not be able to be verified due to losing your internet connection, while you carry all of the redundancy risk. This would also mean that it does not address the iOS issue.

ie. Still no clarity... as I would hope that this is not the case...

[Tex]

The vast majority of projects in an architect’s office are either client/supplier confidential, Secret projects or secret Government projects. Company X for example does not want its competition knowing it is building new offices for example, before they announce it themselves or, a private person does not want its neighbors to know they a planning a new extension before they share it with them. This goes without saying. There are also public projects, however these are often secret until made public. We often can't disclose what we are working on. Architects share their projects mostly via PDF or IFC/ DWG on a project hosting site or via e-mail. There is however, a big difference between this and, hosting a native (Archicad) project file on the cloud. When it comes to government projects where cloud hosting is forbidden, (TOP SECRET as it is called in the Movies), a hybrid solution would not work either. We need to be able to run projects in Teamwork on premises behind firewalls. Have the user features of SAAS like creating folders/ permissions and auto-reserve. Privacy is important so it needs to be app-based so AI agents can't break it easily. Be able to run it on servers of our choice. On Windows or MacOS. 

[Boldizsar Vermes]

Thanks for your replies. My earlier explanation was a little technical, so let me clarify the direction we’re considering.

In plain terms, the idea is to connect a BIMcloud Server running on your own secure local network to a BIMcloud SaaS instance. BIMcloud SaaS would provide services such as user management and licensing, while your Teamwork model data would stay on your local BIMcloud Server – including backups and snapshots. None of that Teamwork model data would be stored in the cloud.

This is different from Delta Cache. Rather than caching fragments of model data hosted on another server, the local BIMcloud Server would host the models themselves.

For people working on the same local network, keeping model-data exchange local could improve performance. It could also provide greater resilience to cloud-service or internet disruptions. Some processes would still require an internet connection, but once the necessary connections are established, users would be able to continue working on the locally hosted model data with Archicad even if BIMcloud SaaS becomes unavailable.

On confidentiality, storing data in the cloud does not make it public, cloud-hosted data still has access controls and security protections. At the same time, I recognise that some organisations have policies or project requirements that require model data to remain on-premises. BIMcloud Hybrid is intended to offer more control over where that data resides, while retaining the benefits of SaaS services. It would still involve cloud services, so it should not be confused with a fully disconnected, on-premises solution.

On the separate question about BIMcloud Basic: this project is about extending BIMcloud SaaS with locally hosted model data, not replacing BIMcloud Basic.

This is our current direction rather than a final specification, but I hope it makes the distinction – and the intended benefits – clearer.

[Lingwisyer]

I feel like there needs to be a way to sync user management to the local server. In that way your remove one of the biggest downsides of cloud services, in that if your internet connection drops, or the cloud host goes down, you are not impacted, yet when everything is up and running, you get the benefit of centrally controlled user management and licensing.

Ling.

[Boldizsar Vermes]

That is the balance we’re looking at: keeping user management centralised while allowing local work to continue during temporary disruptions.

Teamwork can already continue for a limited period when BIMcloud Manager – the component that will run in the cloud – is unavailable, provided the BIMcloud Server remains operational and accessible.

Extending that period involves a trade-off. While disconnected, the local server cannot receive changes to centrally managed access rights. Someone whose access has been revoked or reduced could therefore retain their previous access until those changes reach the server.

For BIMcloud Hybrid, we’re considering whether customers could configure this tolerance to suit their own requirements – balancing continuity during outages against how quickly changes to access rights must take effect. This is still under consideration, rather than a confirmed setting.