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Rendered views placement/saving?

Anonymous
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After you've rendered a view:

Is there anyway to keep it within the AC file? I've had to do some white model renderings, and the process has been to save it outside the AC file when prompted whether to save the changes to image. It can't be saved as a view because there isn't the capability (as far as I know) to tell the view to be a white model rendered view.

Just curious to see what solution(s) there are, as it seems odd to save the rendered view outside the AC file, just to bring it back in as a worksheet.

Thanks for the responses in advance!
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mikas
Expert
Cameras live in project map and floor plan only. They do not keep any rendering settings. Saved views keep all their settings, which are controlled by pen sets, layer sets, MVO's and so on. 3D views act the same. You can have any combination of your saved sets as described above.

Saving and configuring views are a key feature in ArchiCAD working. These correctly and appropriately configured and saved views. Not much can be achieved without understanding and learning this.

3D-views are as important as 2D-views are (at least for me). A 3D-view can be configured to a rendered image. You can then place that view to a layoput, and it will update there then publishing if it is configured to update automatically.

I don't use automatic updating here, though almost everythere else in ArchiCAD I do use automatic updating. My renderings take too much time to be automatic. That's why I render them by name to a folder, and link them as external drawings (png, jpg, tiff) to my lauouts. So I render all necessary pics first, then publish the (presentation) set. If I re-render, pictures will get updated as external links with this procedure. I could, and I often do edit my renders in-between and before publishing (Sometimes I make that with Affinity Photo, sometimes just a little color/brightness with Apple Preview app).

How to make and use 3D view to a rendered image:
- right click view->view settings->3D view
- change: 3D window to render window.
- drag the view to your layout, position, resize
- publish

Auromatic rendering could work for some simple graphics, but not for photorealistic. At least I don't find it very useful used like that.

I hope I got it all out right. I have to admit it's not outright simple at first. But by the second or third time you have done it I am sure you'll get it all, and found your own best practice for your purposes.
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Anonymous
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You can save the view, which sets render settings (white model, photo render, backgrounds, effects, lighting etc), view (camera) position, sun angle, etc. This saves the 3D window though. If you change any settings you need to "Save with current settings" to keep those changes next time you use that view.

Once rendered I usually place my images on layouts using the Drawing tool, set to auto update, and if you re-render a view and save over the previous version (yes, still outside the Archicad file) next time you go to the layout it will update.

So the answer is no, you can't save the image in the Archicad file, but its not too much hassle to streamline the process.
Anonymous
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Thanks -

When you say "white model" and save as a view, I'm presuming you are saying b/w with hidden lines?
mikas
Expert
You can save a view as a render-window, see "Save View" options source menu at the bottom of the dialog. If you check the white model-option from render settings, it will be saved too. You can change the settings for a rendered view later to white model setting if you need to. If the views are changed, they will auto-update then the layout is visited.

I personally do not think it's a very practical thing to save render views straight to layouts though. The renders almost allways needs a little bit of tuning, at least with brightness and/or contrast. Thats why I too use external links to renders.

But you never know what others need or want.
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Anonymous
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ESP182 wrote:
Thanks -

When you say "white model" and save as a view, I'm presuming you are saying b/w with hidden lines?
No, I meant the white model render option, as opposed to coloured / photorealistic render. Saving the view (3D window) keeps the settings but not the image. You still have to render the view to get the image. Hope this makes sense.
Anonymous
Not applicable
mikas wrote:
You can save a view as a render-window, see "Save View" options source menu at the bottom of the dialog. If you check the white model-option from render settings, it will be saved too. You can change the settings for a rendered view later to white model setting if you need to. If the views are changed, they will auto-update then the layout is visited.

I personally do not think it's a very practical thing to save render views straight to layouts though. The renders almost allways needs a little bit of tuning, at least with brightness and/or contrast. Thats why I too use external links to renders.

But you never know what others need or want.
Hello, I'm quite new to Archicad and I was surprised to see that the program doesn't save a render view directly like the camera. This is why I ended up here in this post.

Though, I'm not sure I understood what you meant.
I've a placed camera and then I do a render in order to have a better idea of how it would look with all the materials (no white render). How do I place/link this rendered view to a Layout? If possible, will this picture update/rerender itself when exporting the layout?

Thanks a lot for your help 😉
Solution
mikas
Expert
Cameras live in project map and floor plan only. They do not keep any rendering settings. Saved views keep all their settings, which are controlled by pen sets, layer sets, MVO's and so on. 3D views act the same. You can have any combination of your saved sets as described above.

Saving and configuring views are a key feature in ArchiCAD working. These correctly and appropriately configured and saved views. Not much can be achieved without understanding and learning this.

3D-views are as important as 2D-views are (at least for me). A 3D-view can be configured to a rendered image. You can then place that view to a layoput, and it will update there then publishing if it is configured to update automatically.

I don't use automatic updating here, though almost everythere else in ArchiCAD I do use automatic updating. My renderings take too much time to be automatic. That's why I render them by name to a folder, and link them as external drawings (png, jpg, tiff) to my lauouts. So I render all necessary pics first, then publish the (presentation) set. If I re-render, pictures will get updated as external links with this procedure. I could, and I often do edit my renders in-between and before publishing (Sometimes I make that with Affinity Photo, sometimes just a little color/brightness with Apple Preview app).

How to make and use 3D view to a rendered image:
- right click view->view settings->3D view
- change: 3D window to render window.
- drag the view to your layout, position, resize
- publish

Auromatic rendering could work for some simple graphics, but not for photorealistic. At least I don't find it very useful used like that.

I hope I got it all out right. I have to admit it's not outright simple at first. But by the second or third time you have done it I am sure you'll get it all, and found your own best practice for your purposes.
AC25, Rhino6/7+Grasshopper, TwinMotionMac Pro 6,1 E5-1650v2-3,5GHz/128GB/eGPU:6800XT/11.6.5 • HP Z4/Xeon W-2195/256GB/RX6800XT/W10ProWS
Anonymous
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It worked perfectly! thank you very much for your help 😉

Just to make it perfect 100%, is there a way to set the camera so that all the vertical lines always stay vertical (vertical perspective correction) ? Views always look nicer if the verticals don't have a fuge point when the camera and target aren't in the same height.

Thanks a lot and have a nice day.
Barry Kelly
Moderator
t_and wrote:
It worked perfectly! thanks you very much for your help 😉

Just to make it perfect 100%, is there a way to set the camera so that all the vertical lines always stay vertical (vertical perspective correction) ? Views always look nicer if the verticals don't have a fuge point when the camera and target aren't in the same height.

Thanks a lot and have a nice day.
Before you create your view , right mouse click in the 3D window and choose "2 point perspective".
Or open the view, choose "2 point perspective" and then right click on the view in View Map and choose "Redefine view with current window settings".

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Anonymous
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Tip top, thank you very much 😉

Have a nice day.