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!Restored: Cinema 4D CE 6

Karl Ottenstein
Moderator
Ola wrote:
I purchased Cinema 4D 8.2 and was wondering what the best way to export from Archicad and workflow. How does the rendering time vs result compare to Artlantis. Just purchased Piranesi also, I believe you can create a Epix file directly in C4D now

thanks
Lots of new toys! 😉

I only have C4D XL 7 - so AFAIK, there I have to use 3DS and Vedute to go into Piranesi. Nice if 8.2 allows it directly.

3DS format works well from AC to C4D. See various notes and comments in the archives at:

http://www.escribe.com/software/archicadtalk/

and there are also some good comments at:

http://www.fred-speaks.com/phpBB2/index.php

Some of those guys will hopefully re-post their comments here with some nice screenshots of the parameter settings dialogs (hint, hint).

As for speed, comparing C4D and Artlantis is difficult because C4D can do so much more than Artlantis, particularly as far as lighting goes...if you have the "Advanced Render" module (or the XL package). For comparable quality on a fast computer, I don't know that you'd see the difference. With a dual processor, C4D wins since Artlantis won't use the other processor. As soon as you use a radiosity solution, C4D will start to slow down (the race depends on your parameters and number of processors - or even network rendering, and option there and not with Artlantis) - but the results will astound you compared to Artlantis 'global illumination'.

[For example: if the C4D 8.2 CD contains some of the same sample scenes as XL7... look for a folder called 'Radiosity-LIght'. There's a JPG there ("Light") that is a wonderful demonstration of lighting effects that C4D can do and Artlantis cannot even come close to. Load the sample scene file in C4D and render it as a sample of how long such a thing takes on your computer. Not bad at all on mine. I've attached a cropped section of that image for others to see here ... image copyright Maxon Computer I should imagine.]

Including human time, Artlantis is a no-brainer IMHO - wins hands down for quick renderings.

Even if you cannot create the EPix file in C4D ... you can create the file in AC or Artlantis, then render the (same sized) image in C4D and finally import that image as the new Save RGB channel in Piranesi. Mix and match.

Have fun!

Karl

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stefan
Advisor
And I was thinking that the Window lights were only meant to be placed against windows, to give a diffuse soft lighting...
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stefan
Advisor
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stefan
Advisor
,,,
--- stefan boeykens --- bim-expert-architect-engineer-musician ---
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Dwight
Newcomer
That light panel is the trick!
It is really the most cinematic of the lighting tools.
It fills with directional shadow-controllable light.

Your two interiors would benefit from some ceiling glow - Please post the result...
Dwight Atkinson
stefan
Advisor
Dwight wrote:
That light panel is the trick!
It is really the most cinematic of the lighting tools.
It fills with directional shadow-controllable light.

Your two interiors would benefit from some ceiling glow - Please post the result...
I knew I should have kept the older files and software installed...
I guess I can't open them now, but I'll try to do something.

Why don't we start a new thread on LightWorks and stop cluttering the Burginger-C4D thread? 😉

I'm hoping to do some rendering soon, but at the moment it's all C++ (and not even ArchiCAD) and re-installing my PC... AutoCAD & ArchiCAD are just installed 😉
--- stefan boeykens --- bim-expert-architect-engineer-musician ---
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Archicad-user since 1998
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Dwight
Newcomer
I know how you feel, but with a little practice, you'll improve. You won't be giving yourself such low grades like C++, which is almost a "B" in my books, anyway. That is not so bad. Soon, you'll be getting "A+" for your work. But what do I know from programming? When I make a program, I know to schedule the fat lady singer last so everyone knows it is time to leave.

This thread is just a cry for help from Burginger. He is prodding us all for LightWorks solutions by threatening to shoot his dog.

He says: "Make LightWorks work or I'll shoot this dog."
But that Cinema is great. If only they catalogued objects like ArchiCAD does.
Dwight Atkinson
stefan
Advisor
Dwight wrote:
I know how you feel, but with a little practice, you'll improve. You won't be giving yourself such low grades like C++, which is almost a "B" in my books, anyway. That is not so bad. Soon, you'll be getting "A+" for your work. But what do I know from programming? When I make a program, I know to schedule the fat lady singer last so everyone knows it is time to leave.

This thread is just a cry for help from Burginger. He is prodding us all for LightWorks solutions by threatening to shoot his dog.

He says: "Make LightWorks work or I'll shoot this dog."
But that Cinema is great. If only they catalogued objects like ArchiCAD does.
So why not push Maxon for a GDL-adaptor-plugin? Wouldn't that be nice?

C++ is not as low as it gets. I'm learning Qt nowadays... Z is not far away.
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Anonymous
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Dwight wrote:
Mark says: "Make LightWorks work or I'll shoot this dog."
That's right and I am giving you 24 hrs.,(that's one week in dog years), until then I want to see a spectacular exterior rendering of a home done in LightWorks, by a new poster (Dwight excluded).

I see an unfortunate event ahead for my dog, "Lucky". HA HA HA
Dwight
Newcomer
So there's a challenge:

A lightweorks rendering to save Mark's wonderful dog "Skunklicker," so that he can continue to terrorize helpless neighborhood children and rabbits.

Remember in Michael Apted's Seven Up series where the little girl in the garden is being interviewed and in the background, the huge hound munches the bunny? In one bite? Skunklicker's Granddad.

I'll coach you if you want to try. By next Friday or else.
Dwight Atkinson
Dwight
Newcomer
And the word skunklicker passes the censor test.
Dwight Atkinson