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!Restored: Cinema 4D CE 6

Karl Ottenstein
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Ola wrote:
I purchased Cinema 4D 8.2 and was wondering what the best way to export from Archicad and workflow. How does the rendering time vs result compare to Artlantis. Just purchased Piranesi also, I believe you can create a Epix file directly in C4D now

thanks
Lots of new toys! 😉

I only have C4D XL 7 - so AFAIK, there I have to use 3DS and Vedute to go into Piranesi. Nice if 8.2 allows it directly.

3DS format works well from AC to C4D. See various notes and comments in the archives at:

http://www.escribe.com/software/archicadtalk/

and there are also some good comments at:

http://www.fred-speaks.com/phpBB2/index.php

Some of those guys will hopefully re-post their comments here with some nice screenshots of the parameter settings dialogs (hint, hint).

As for speed, comparing C4D and Artlantis is difficult because C4D can do so much more than Artlantis, particularly as far as lighting goes...if you have the "Advanced Render" module (or the XL package). For comparable quality on a fast computer, I don't know that you'd see the difference. With a dual processor, C4D wins since Artlantis won't use the other processor. As soon as you use a radiosity solution, C4D will start to slow down (the race depends on your parameters and number of processors - or even network rendering, and option there and not with Artlantis) - but the results will astound you compared to Artlantis 'global illumination'.

[For example: if the C4D 8.2 CD contains some of the same sample scenes as XL7... look for a folder called 'Radiosity-LIght'. There's a JPG there ("Light") that is a wonderful demonstration of lighting effects that C4D can do and Artlantis cannot even come close to. Load the sample scene file in C4D and render it as a sample of how long such a thing takes on your computer. Not bad at all on mine. I've attached a cropped section of that image for others to see here ... image copyright Maxon Computer I should imagine.]

Including human time, Artlantis is a no-brainer IMHO - wins hands down for quick renderings.

Even if you cannot create the EPix file in C4D ... you can create the file in AC or Artlantis, then render the (same sized) image in C4D and finally import that image as the new Save RGB channel in Piranesi. Mix and match.

Have fun!

Karl

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Anonymous
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Rob_Walker wrote:
Hi there, here's my first post..

Does anyone know if it is possible to split up the render of a single image
over a network via Cinema 4D NetRender?
Technically yes - there are two ways to split up the rendering of a single image;

a) use two (or more) computers to render different parts of the image (by setting the render area on each machine) and then combining in photoshop. This isn't using the 'netrender' package.

b) using a technique called 'letterboxing' - set up an alpha mask to move over the image showing (for example) just 1/7 of the final image for each of the (lets say 7) frames (if you have a 7-computer farm). Would only really be worthwhile on images greater than 4000x4000 pixels - and if you are doing a LOT of these.

Don't forget that the C4D licence is 'network-sensitive'. Although you can have c4d installed on more than one computer at a time if there are multiple instances running then they check (over the network) that they don't share the same licence number a good solution.

HTH - Stuart

PS. Because of the web-based nature of the netrender interface it is possible to use other collleagues computers to perform the task, although I don't know of a commercial firm (yet) providing a render farm service for c4d (although I haven't googled it).
Dwight
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RENDER KING [What Else??]

http://www.renderking.com/rkdoineed.htm


Nice man, has done some work with colleague Mark Burginger.....


many machines - has a way to split single renderings.... don't know what it is..
Dwight Atkinson
Anonymous
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Please see Render King Thread.

http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=2965

Information about net rendering can be found there.


At home the XL Bundle comes with Net Render for 3 machines. The easiest way to split a render works while using your TILED CAMERA OBJECT

Look for Menu-- OBJECTS/ OBJECT LIBRARY. This is in ver 8.5.

The RenderKing network has a license for 22 plus machines, allowing you to split the image into 8 pieces using a processor for each of the eight sections.

Think about it for a second, each of the eight sections contains imagery which varies in complexitity. One section that contains mostly sky will finish first, the section with the reflective glass will finish last. You obviously need to wait for it to finish before you can call the job complete. Basically you save time, but it isn't (8) times as fast.
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Anonymous
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Well i must say that i agree about all that had been written here (sorry about my english)...but i must say that abvent is preparing a surprise for all art*lantis user's.

The image in that addres ( http://www.abvent.com/us/forum/default.htm ), (choose the topic, news about new version and see the document "teste2" posted by Marcos) is one of the first internal tests of the new art*lantis version ( it will be ready at the end of the year)...you can see that there is new rendering engine with radiosity effects........but better than that...is that...there is radiosity in preview window ( do you another software that makes that)..

There will be some new features, about light (radiosity included) and productivity. There will be network rendering and multi processor render.

.....Let's wait for some news...

Note: radiosity in preview is really, really fastt .....Final rendering is fantastically fast too.

regards
Dwight
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Well???
Dwight Atkinson
Anonymous
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Hi Dwight, sorry i didn't understand your question.....(" what? ")

did i said something wrong? sorry about my english (is my third language)

friendly regards
Dwight
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Sorry. I mis-posted myself.
Dwight Atkinson
Anonymous
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Retirado wrote:
Well i must say that i agree about all that had been written here (sorry about my english)...but i must say that abvent is preparing a surprise for all art*lantis user's.

The image in that addres ( http://www.abvent.com/us/forum/default.htm ), (choose the topic, news about new version and see the document "teste2" posted by Marcos)
regards
Sorry, I don't understand what you are talking about. Did you provide a link to a Demo Image? If so I can't find it.

Mark
Dwight
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It is there, all right.

Read again.

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