Built-in 3D in archicad?

[cocoloco]

Hello I have question about built-in add-on inside of archicad for 3D. I don't expect much of this 3D (not 3ds max quality but some decent 3D that are representable).  I guess I am a bit confused.

I know it has some sort of standard build-in 3D (it is just ok to me without making difference between elevation and that 3d tool). I am aware there is also Cinema 4D but I am little confused about how it is used. My intention was to create the 3d's inside of archicad and not using another software/application.

Isn't the Cinema 4D meant to be used integrated inside of archicad?

If not, is there another "free" addon that can be used inside? 

[Bricklyne Clarence]

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[rm · Accepted solution]

I'm not sure why you received such a harsh response from the other user, I understood perfectly well that you were trying to understand what rendering capabilities are built in to ArchiCAD. Some like to make themselves seem wise by trying to make others feel foolish.

I cannot speak for others, but I have always found rendering inside of ArchiCAD slow, cumbersome and just not efficient use of time. There are quite a few good 3rd party rendering packages out there, of course as an added expense. BUT, if you are working in ArchiCAD and want to render an image in the background in another software package. This gives you access to better rendering engines and dual use of your computer, assuming it is fast enough.

[scottjm · Accepted solution]

you have the following built in 3D view/output functions built in to Archicad. 
- the standard 3D window used for 3d modelling/editing, which gives rudimentary 3d views and can show textures, but lacks advanced light quality, transparency, reflectivity etc. 

- the 3D Document - which is just a vectorial representation of a 3d view. 

- Cinerender/Cinema 4D is the built in ‘Rendering’ tool.  This includes Redshift rendering engine these days. While it is possible get good quality renders with it, I have always found it cumbersome and slow to get things looking good.  

Newer real-time rendering applications like Enscape, Twinmotion or D5 are far superior and I’m able to get very impressive outputs which little or no additional configurations. So the return on investment for these other platforms is almost immediate over cinerender. They do however require a suitably powerful dedicated graphics card to run

[Laszlo Nagy · Accepted solution]

As far as I know, and my AI buddy says the same:

"Twinmotion offers a fully-featured, unrestricted version free of charge for businesses with annual gross revenue under $1 million."

[Lingwisyer]

https://www.twinmotion.com/en-US/download

That is $1 million USD. Also free for students and educational institutions.

[cocoloco]

lol aren't you grumpy. No I mean actually Cinema 4D 😂 exactly how archcicad itself refers to it? I know you had probably need to correct me, but I think I can explain myself well without "correct" terminology. Thankfully, the rest of people here understood it. 

https://www.graphisoft.com/downloads/addons/cinema_4d/cinema4d_download/

[jl_lt · Accepted solution]

i recommend twinmotion, it has been a complete game changer for us, specially if you need nice results while also working in rral time, but not necessarily strife for photorealism. 

 ive heard great things about D5, but havent used that one yet.

[cocoloco]

thank you, I appreciate it! Maybe I did not use the correct terminology but archicad literally calls it Cinema 4D on their site so how am I suppose to know it is something else. 
Anyway, Thank you for not entertaining the drama. 

Regarding the renderings. My team use 3ds max for prominent rooms (open space, master bed, powder room..). For the standard rooms I have always provided elevations but the problem with that sometimes is, that the contractors/builders often miss a lot of details, swatch finishes, etc. (it does not happen all the time and all the rooms but it is common enough for me to do some "simple" renderings. But I prefer to do it in archicad. 

also because I never used archicad for renderings in general, and did not like the "creative imagining" (have no idea if thats correct terminology  but that's how I see it in archicad menu) , I did little research and found the Cinema 4D (or however else they call it).But It wasn't clear whether it Is another software or built-in archicad. Or if there is anything else I can't use for free. (to me the archicad is already quite expensive so I was hoping to have some reasonable 3D maker built in?) 

[cocoloco]

thank you!