Wishes - New Feature Request for MVO setting "Model Appearance" of "Section & Elevation settings"

[Francois Swanepoel]

I want to post this wish for a New Feature Request for setting "Model Appearance" of "Section & Elevation settings" in "Model View Options" instead of in the "Section & Elevation settings".

Since forever and at the moment "Model Appearance" is set up in the "Section & Elevation settings". 

To get various drawings for the same Section & Elevation Views, we have to actually duplicate the Section & Elevation on the Storey / Plan View and customize the Section & Elevation settings for each as desired. 

The new appearance options for the cut & uncut fills are really great and exciting improvement for creative drawing control. But I believe that moving all these settings to "Model View Options" instead will just give us total freedom to create limitless drawing View options. 

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The "Graphic Overrides" are limited and for example do not give us the options to choose between or change the "cut & uncut fill" types of the Section & Elevation settings. 

Request / suggestion:

If these Section & Elevation settings are controlled in "Model View Options" we do not need to duplicate the Section & Elevation on the Storey / Plan View to get various Section & Elevation Views. We can then globally control Model Appearance by MVOs linked to Saved Views. This would make the drawings & workflow much more flexible.

[Robert Nichols]

Yes - great idea. In general, I find there are several locations where a "style" definition would be useful. Dimensions, for starters (or have I overlooked something?). Some days I find myself opening dialogs and clicking things in a repetitive way, and I think there has to be a better way.

[Karl Ottenstein]

Agree totally.   Clearly, if the ARCHICAD interface were designed from scratch today, it would do this.  The section options (and other similar things) were all we had in the days before MVO and GOs.  For consistency, these legacy view options should all be moved to MVO as in your wish.  It would simplify things so much having, as Robert Nichols calls them, "style" definitions that are easily changed per view rather than per viewpoint. 👍

[DGSketcher]

+1 There have been other discussions along similar lines. The alternative that comes to mind is the creation of 2D Styles and adding them to the drawing View Settings. Either way the problems of @Francois Swanepoel are not new, not only from needing different elevation settings but also maintaining consistent setting between different elevation/section views.

[Johan Stinckens]

Agree!

Where's the Poll option for this?! 😁

This sort of change would omit the need for repetitions — surplus section lines / surplus dimensioning when needing alternate formatting — resulting in a simpler model, less prone to issues.

Great Thinking!

[Minh Nguyen]

Hi Francois,

Thank you very much for sharing this great idea!

I am happy to say we took notice of this wish and I have added it to our Wish List database (please refer to it as IDEA-4394). Hopefully, our Product Management team will adopt this one in the future.

Thank you all for the discussion, and I wish you a great day!

Best regards,

Minh

[Francois Swanepoel]

Thanks @Minh Nguyen that's great news, we look forward to see how your team even improved on this concept as you always do.

[James B]

Thanks for the input and feedback into this wish.

I'm not sure if MVO would be the best location for these settings, but possible 3D Style - if they were extended to support Sections/Elevations. As 3D Styles already handles shadows for 3D Views. Or perhaps some settings should be taken over by Graphic Overrides... but we understand the main point of the request of being able to have these settings adaptable per view - not baked into the viewpoint.

I've moved this to 'on hold', as we'd likely need to recreate each setting in its new place, as the settings may apply to elements at a different phase in the model generation.

[Francois Swanepoel]

Thanks @James B, I understand your alternative reasoning. I'm sure you & the team will know best where to have these controls. Looking forward to the resolve of this workflow.