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MEP: Routing issue

Anonymous
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Hi

I am trying to use MEP but facing the following problem:

With the Route tool the pipe dia set to 21mm, the bend radius changes to 150mm from 15 mm.

i.e., I start routing with pipe dia set to 21mm, MEP system "Clean Water", I need to use Pipe Bend with 15 mm radius but Route Tool places Pipe Bend with 150 mm radius
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David Maudlin
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narin26:

Try this: before Routing, select and open the Pipe Bend 15 object (the one used for the bend) and change its default values to (A) Diameter = 21 mm, (B) Bend Radius = 15 mm. Then route.

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Anonymous
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Thanks David Maudlin

I had done changing the pipe dia and bend radius but for some strange reason, the bend & tee radius and connection length revert back to the default while routing.

I however have managed to change the dia and radius of bend & tee and then save the object to Embedded Library.

Now the routing is placing MEP objects as per the modified MEP objects.

Narin26



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Anonymous
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I'm not sure I understand exactly what your problem is. In case you don't already know...

It could be because the routing function uses the current default setting of whatever parts it needs. This means that when you switch pipe sizes you also have to change the settings of the bend, tee and wye tools (etc) accordingly. I set up favorites and/or make a template to quickly pick my sizes and types when I change for example from 2" (50mm) copper supply to 8" (200mm) cast iron drain. This way I can control the radius, flange, offset, etc in detail* for each system type.

It's a shame we can't define complete plumbing systems with the fitting types and sizes preset. This workaround is an annoying chore.

* Within the rather contstrained limits of the add-on.
David Maudlin
Rockstar
narin26 wrote:
I however have managed to change the dia and radius of bend & tee and then save the object to Embedded Library.
Yes, this is the more permanent solution, but a harder way to change the default settings.

David
David Maudlin / Architect
www.davidmaudlin.com
Digital Architecture
AC28 USA • Mac mini M4 Pro OSX15 | 64 gb ram • MacBook Pro M3 Pro | 36 gb ram OSX14
Anonymous
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Well to being with suppose I open a new file and start MEP routing with a 21 mm dia pipe size in cooling.

Whenever there's a bend, The Route tool places a 150mm radius bend and the tee size is also quite big as per ASTM Standards.

If I go to the Pipe Bend Object and change the radius to say 15 mm, the Route Tool would again place a bend with 150 mm

Now to use the ASTM Sizes I have had to edit the bend and tee MEP objects using the Open Object option, go to the GDL script, change the radius, connection length, branch length, etc. save them in the Embedded Library.

I have also saved the bend and tee pipe to a local folder for use in other project.

Now before using the Route Tool I once open the Pipe Bend And Tee Objects going to their respective objects in the MEP, Piping, Bend Object and opening them once.

OK. Now I start Routing, the bends with 15 mm radius are placed automatically. When I restart routing from the middle of a pipe Route asks to specify the Tee and I select the custom ASTM tee.

I have tried the "Favorite" approach as suggested by Matthew but that is now working. Maybe I am doing something wrong.

This also works sometimes as many a times the Route tools stops working when trying to continue on a existing route or place a tee in a Middle of a Pipe section.
Anonymous
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Bend file