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Wall surface areas

Anonymous
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Hi, does anyone know if the wall surface area in a schedule adapts when I either trim it to a roof or cut it with a SEO?

Cheers
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Anonymous
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No for both. Scheduled area is of the unaltered wall. (At least for AC12 - 14).

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Snap
Link
Graphisoft Partner
Graphisoft Partner
It's supposed to work, but the schedule may be a little buggy in updating.

So you might have to include a wall change or extra wall to force the change in the schedule. Then undo it and open the schedule again.

You can also get this info out of the Element Information palette.

Cheers,
Link.
Anonymous
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Link,

I've tried these wall changes: location, length, material, rotation. I also
saved the file and reopened. No schedule update occurs. Suggestions?

Test set up is three identical walls, one roof trimmed, one SEO'd, one unaltered.
Looking in 3D window confirms trim and SEO.

Element Info Palette has same behavior, no SF change.

Snap
Karl Ottenstein
Moderator
Yes for both. I'm not sure what Snap might be doing wrong - unless this is a Windows vs Mac issue, but see attached screenshot... Everything updates instantly.

Karl

PS My reference and opposite sides show differing areas ... I forgot to hold the shift key when I quickly created my roof pivot line for this test, so the slightly rotated roof accounts for the differing trims for the opposite surfaces.
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AC 28 USA and earlier   •   macOS Ventura 13.7, MacBook Pro M2 Max 12CPU/30GPU cores, 32GB
Link
Graphisoft Partner
Graphisoft Partner
Not sure what's going on there. We have almost identical specs.

The Element Information palette should always be up to date, you got the appropriate content displaying?

I've found that the schedule will require a change in the walls that changes something in the schedule, to make it update correctly.

Another apparent shortcoming I have here is that the SEO wall does not list it's correct minimum height.

Cheers,
Link.
Karl Ottenstein
Moderator
Hi Link,

The wall height is a different issue (and bug IMHO). This bug affects columns trimmed with SEO too - perhaps more. I've been meaning to report the column thing (you know!), but have been traveling. Discovered while modeling a shed down to the stud level in order to generate my cut list - and finding that it was impossible.

Surface areas seem fine though, right?

Cheers,
Karl
One of the forum moderators
AC 28 USA and earlier   •   macOS Ventura 13.7, MacBook Pro M2 Max 12CPU/30GPU cores, 32GB
Link
Graphisoft Partner
Graphisoft Partner
Karl wrote:
Hi Link,

The wall height is a different issue (and bug IMHO). This bug affects columns trimmed with SEO too - perhaps more. I've been meaning to report the column thing (you know!), but have been traveling. Discovered while modeling a shed down to the stud level in order to generate my cut list - and finding that it was impossible.

Surface areas seem fine though, right?

Cheers,
Karl
Yes - the areas are perfect. I even manually checked them with an area fill over the elevation. All good.

Cheers,
Link.
Anonymous
Not applicable
Careless mistake on my part.

I applied "wall area" not "wall surface area"

Snap