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real rafter length

Anonymous
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Hi, I would like to ask you guys if there is any way to get real rafter (or any other sloped object) length?

In my company, we often need to calculate quantity of lumber used in roof construction or any other and I have really big trouble when it comes to that...

I wonder why there is no way (hope I'm wrong) to get actual rafter length?

First, to explain what I need: I see actual rafter length as length from ends of element, not from points where it rests on beams or walls or similar. That's why I can't get any length that matches my need. I've tried several parameters in schedule setup but nothing worked. Only things I get are length of horizontal projection, length between resting places, or odd combinations of mentioned. Even turning that simple option called "Display length value" under parameters of Rafter2_1 11 (or any other) gives wrong number...

If anyone have come up with solution for this - please help!
I send in attachment pictures that will more accurately explain my problem.

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Anonymous
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Click the 'Additional Parameters' button at the bottom of the scheme settings dialog, navigate to the roofmaker rafters, select the rafter, and you should see the 'lumbersize' parameter listed underneath. Simply add this to main schedule fields. I hope the diagram below is helpful.

Note - I haven't tested any of the other roof timbers, but the one I mentioned seems to work as expected. I'd recommend doing some further checking yourself to see if they all work properly before diving in to do a full schedule!

Good luck!
RandyC
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Peter:

I do not have that paramater (see attached image) , could it be that I am using a North American Library ?
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Erika Epstein
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In the 13 US library I found most of the parameters Peter shows under Rafter 13, not Rafter2_113.

In the screen-shot you can see some values in inches, others in feet, some values live, others with " --- " aren't calling a live parameter and nothing can be manually written into the cell...

What a mess!
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Anonymous
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What a mess!
I'd have to agree. Sorry for getting your hopes up!

In the INT library, the roof members found in both the 'RoofMaker' folder and the 'Roof Construction' folder both have the LumberSize parameter which does actually display the correct length.

Unfortunately there are several other parameters that are not shared or named the same and so they cannot be used and scheduled together.

In fact some of the parameters found in the 'Roof Construction' members looks German based!

Although I understand that many library parts have been re-written for AC14, I suspect that these probably haven't. Perhaps this could be a job for Zsolt and his team to finally unify all the roof members between the various metric and imperial countries, and ensure the parameters are named the same so the scheduling works more reliably.
RandyC
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Thanks everyone for checking, I hope Graphisoft will fix this in some future release.
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