Hide window sills in exterior elevations?

[BulldogBen]

I'm using the "Three-centered Arch Top Window" from the window library. The sills are sticking out in elevations as shown below...

I can't find a setting anywhere that lets me hide the sills in these elevations (unless I over-paint them which I'm trying to avoid). I could just turn them off, but ideally they would appear in 3D.

Any ideas?

[Barry Kelly]

You can turn the sills off, but they will be off in all 3D and elevation views.

Unfortunately you can't turn them off only when they are viewed side on.

The sills protrude beyond the wall face, so from side on you will see them sticking out.

You could set them so they don't protrude, that way they will still look correct from front on in an elevation.

But they will be wrong in 3D.

You can't win.

If you really don't want to see them from side on, you will have to cover them with a fill, but that could be difficult trying to match the brickwork.

I would say that is how they will look in reality, so leave them as they are.

Barry.

[CosminF]

Hi,

I tried to hide it using MVO, and couldn't. Graphic overrides won't help.

Same issue was expressed here, and again, the answer was: not possible.
https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Documentation/How-to-hide-side-window-trim/td-p/277809

Worst case scenario you could try to model them separately on a different layer - which can generate issues of its own.

[BulldogBen]

Well found Cosmin, I did try looking before I posted but missed this one.

I appreciate the quick responses, I thought it was an uphill battle. I'm leaning to towards agreeing with Barry that it matches reality so leave it in.

Well when we say matches reality, that would require clearing a flat plane of all obstacles out to infinity then using a camera with infinite zoom to get the same view. Oh and we'd probably best remove all of Earth's air to prevent image distortion - not to mention any pesky planets or galaxies in the way. Don't think I'd be popular 🙂

Seriously though, thanks guys!

[Patrick M]

model them separately as beams. 
I know its a bunch of work, but you could have layers for Sills North, Sills East, Sill...
then each elevation has it's own layer combo.
...
there is almost always a way.
the great thing, and trouble with, BIM models... you can't fake it, unless you make things "less BIM"

[mthd]

Yes this is definitely a pain and needs to be fixed and made simple. A turn off sills tab for 3D views and for 2D elevation views could work ? Turning the elevations into 2D drawings doesn’t work if you want to keep the model live. Modelling sills separately takes up much time. 3D BIM takes more time to get the model looking correct but we do it so we can show our clients what the building will realistically look like.

[BulldogBen]

I agree that a setting in the windows that allows you to turn the sills off in elevations is the ticket.

There is already a similar setting related to sections.

[Ahmed_K]

I get an ispiration from @Patrick M , 

You can place your windows normally, including the sill, then, create a property for facade orientation, 

Then assign it to windows and doors, it's already usefull for energy calculations , 

Then with graphic overrides you can hide the window of any facade you want , using the hide contours command 

[mthd]

Great tip @Ahmed_K for an energy calculation workflow inside Archicad. I have searched for information on this topic but can’t find much information on it. Probably good for Graphisoft to provide us with a webinar on how to do it ? I am interested in your method but that would need to be put into a tips and tricks part of the forum.

[BulldogBen]

I can imagine this working, look forward to trying it when I’m home. I’ll report back.

Thanks so much for everyone’s feedback so far.