2022-01-10 06:31 AM
As per the subject. We have a project that has duplicated the floor plan over 10 stories and we are finding that the module is not performing PBC to itself. We have check the settings and obvious issues which are set correctly. Are there any non-obvious settings that must be set for this to work?
2022-01-13 02:15 AM
Yes we are constantly checking this, as you know half your time in AC requires this to be part of your documentation task on large projects. A ceiling slab to concrete floor slab PBC should still work as long as they overlap and ceiling building material is set weaker anyway...
2022-01-13 06:22 AM - edited 2022-01-13 06:23 AM
You probably know this already, you would have noticed duplicate building materials already if this were an issue, but since it was mentioned: if somebody makes a change to some material, publishes, and updates while somebody else has stuff reserved (or was it Materials reserved? I always ask everybody out, or find myself a time when everybody is out, for something like this), then you get duplicate materials.
I always place modules on the Archicad layer, so as not to have to include the module layer in each layer combination, except in very precise cases such as shell and infill buildings in which elements in unit interior modules share the same element layers as those in building common areas, so by turning off the master layer you get the shell only.
The picture you uploaded is baffling. I would check duplicates, check that I am not publishing nested modules, or elements displaying on stories above or below getting pubished with the module, and getting duplicated that way.
2022-01-13 06:31 AM
Thanks Ignacio, in your experience do nested modules in modules create conumdrums for Archicad? We have a module in a module in this case. However we would think GS have considered this probability..
2022-01-13 04:58 PM - edited 2022-01-13 06:40 PM
Setup for module-in-module needs to be planned with care (no rocket science, though; a couple of basics need to be watched out for). Life is easier with nested off, but sometimes you really need to use them. Say you have a unit plan module, and within it a HVAC unit module which repeats across different unit plans, so module-in-module is the only way to go. If the HVAC module master layer is on, all its elements will (obviously) get published in the HVAC module along with the unit plan module, even if you don't see them in the unit module publishing view. I have not done it for a couple of years now, but I remember thinking it through quite seriously. I'd have to check what I did exactly the last time (and I can't check now, but can if needed after Tuesday), but off the top of my head a bulletproof path would be to publish the HVAC modules and place them into the unit creation stories, and then publish the units with nested modules off and all the desired HVAC module element layers visible, so that the HVAC elements will show on the unit plan publishing view (the HVAC mod master layer will obviously be visible in the unit plan publishing view, but with nested-off the HVAC module will not be carried through as a module with the unit plan into the building plan).
Have you checked duplicates? Messed up setups for nested modules immediately result in duplicate elements, their numbers doubling with every update, so it very soon gets crazy.
The other killer is elements from other stories visible. Just say no. And unless some exceptional situation requires otherwise, everything displaying symbolic, own story only.
2022-01-16 11:59 PM
We are currently resigned to modelling the ceilings so they do not intersect/overlap with the floor slab over. We suspect PBC of modules to itself in Archicad is problematic. Shame since this is the whole reason you would want to use it. Is it not... Would like to see someone from GS here confirm or not whether this is the case. For now there is no obvious or non-obvious solutions
2022-01-17 09:25 AM
Sample of your file would help in search for solution. Can you share it?