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Extend a Zone into Door opening

Aussie John
Newcomer
Somewhere between my version jump from v12 to v22 zones stopped extending into a door opening. Any suggestion to fix this or is a GDL object code line needed?
Cheers John
John Hyland : ARINA : www.arina.biz
User ver 4 to 12 - Jumped to v22 - so many options and settings!!!
OSX 10.15.6 [Catalina] : Archicad 22 : 15" MacBook Pro 2019
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Barry Kelly
Moderator
Have a look in Project Preferences > Zones settings.
That might be what you are after.

Barry.
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Aussie John
Newcomer
I have played with those preferences and it lets the zone extend to the line of the frame but still leaves an albeit thinner white space.
Interestingly when opening an old file the zone fills the door space but after updating the zone it pulls back to the wall line.
Cheers John
John Hyland : ARINA : www.arina.biz
User ver 4 to 12 - Jumped to v22 - so many options and settings!!!
OSX 10.15.6 [Catalina] : Archicad 22 : 15" MacBook Pro 2019
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Laszlo Nagy
Community Admin
Community Admin
Is the Frame Thickness set to be equal to the Wall Thickness?
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Aussie John
Newcomer
Hi Laszlo
The frame is set smaller than the wall thickness. The threshold at the bottom of the frame remains white. Is there a setting in the door that might hide the zone?
Cheers John
John Hyland : ARINA : www.arina.biz
User ver 4 to 12 - Jumped to v22 - so many options and settings!!!
OSX 10.15.6 [Catalina] : Archicad 22 : 15" MacBook Pro 2019
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Laszlo Nagy
Community Admin
Community Admin
Could you post some screenshots?
1. Floor Plan detail of Door (Zone color should be visible so we see Zone Polygon extents).
2. Section through Door and other structures.
3. Zone settings in Project Preferences.
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AMD Ryzen9 5900X CPU, 64 GB RAM 3600 MHz, Nvidia GTX 1060 6GB, 500 GB NVMe SSD
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Aussie John
Newcomer
Hi Laszio

Thanks
Info as requested
(for some reason I am not being notified of replies)

cheers John
Cheers John
John Hyland : ARINA : www.arina.biz
User ver 4 to 12 - Jumped to v22 - so many options and settings!!!
OSX 10.15.6 [Catalina] : Archicad 22 : 15" MacBook Pro 2019
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Barry Kelly
Moderator
Aussie wrote:
(for some reason I am not being notified of replies)

Check your profile settings for replies.
See here...

https://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=68961&start=10#p306505


As for the zones they will only go up to the side of the frame (each side of the door).
At least that is how it seems from my observations.
So on the door side, the zone will go up to the door side - all good.
But on the other side the zone will only go up to the frame.

I guess you could argue that that is a bug?
Maybe it should go to the other side of the frame (where the other zone stops), or technically is should go up to the inside of the door panel thickness.
But I think that may be getting a bit technical and I think most would think the zone stopping at the frame is OK.

Interestingly if the frame extends beyond the wall thickness, it is ignored and the zone continues to where the edge of the wall would be if the frame was not there at all.


Barry.
One of the forum moderators.
Versions 6.5 to 27
i7-10700 @ 2.9Ghz, 32GB ram, GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB), Windows 10
Lenovo Thinkpad - i7-1270P 2.20 GHz, 32GB RAM, Nvidia T550, Windows 11
Aussie John
Newcomer
Hi Barry I have to disagree. The line should go to where you expect a floor finish to stop ie under the door. As it looks ridiculous with a white stripe I have to call bug, especially as ver 12 worked perfectly and as expected.
As I have said previously my Archicad experience stopped for a while at 12.
Thanks for the reply advice.
Cheers John
John Hyland : ARINA : www.arina.biz
User ver 4 to 12 - Jumped to v22 - so many options and settings!!!
OSX 10.15.6 [Catalina] : Archicad 22 : 15" MacBook Pro 2019
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Barry Kelly
Moderator
It must be controlled by the door object somehow.
There must be something in the object scripting that affects it.

I don't use the GS default library.
I have my own objects - not as sophisticated but they do what I want.
No matter what settings I have the zone will not go into the recess for my doors.
Whereas it will for a GS door in the same wall.


So there is obviously something in the object script that allows for the door recesses that I don't have in my door scripts.
It can't simply be the reveal depth and my doors use that too.

I would think that if the GS scripts can recognise these recess depths and it knows the frame thickness, it must be able to allow for the zone to extend into the frame.
Don't ask me what controls it but my guess is there is a parameter in the GS door that stores the recess to frame depth (not the standard reveal depth as even my door uses that) that the zone reads.
There are many hundreds of parameters - many of which are hidden to the user.
Finding the right one might allow it to be manipulated.

Not that this is any help at all - just my observation.


Barry.
One of the forum moderators.
Versions 6.5 to 27
i7-10700 @ 2.9Ghz, 32GB ram, GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB), Windows 10
Lenovo Thinkpad - i7-1270P 2.20 GHz, 32GB RAM, Nvidia T550, Windows 11