Wishlist to reality

[pr3]

We all fairly recently saw some life in the Wishlist process. There was a big "spring cleanup" this year.
The Wishlist is now filled with 10 pages of wishes but all I see is "open" and "upvoted" wishes. There is not a single wish that is being "under consideration" or "on the roadmap"

The same applies to the German "Wunschliste" btw.

What exactly - if anything - is Graphisoft doing with these Wishlists?

[Rob]

Hi pr3,

I can tell you that our product managers are looking into this, however since it is a quite a load of wishes it is a time consuming task. Also, they want to make sure that the clean-up wishes are considered thoroughly. It is not an easy task as it requires several people to contribute, who have their own projects / responsibilities to take care of in parallel. Admittedly it is a bit slower than I have expected but I will make sure that the process will be a steady progress and we will get through all of them.

[hevi]

I'm sorry but this response sure makes you wonder. So you finally launch a wish/idea functionality some 3 years after work allegedly began with the goal of  "a feature that will help us process your wishes and ideas in much better way with a proper feedback". During those 3 years you have pointed to several obstacles for implementation, both organisational and technical, which we now have to assumed has been overcome. In addition to that you had a 2 month spring clean for which most of the time it was obvious which 50 or so would make it through and now you have had 3 months since the launch of the new wishlist. All this we still haven't gotten feedback on a single wish which tells me that something that almost every other software developer manage to deliver is too hard for GS or that it simply isn't more than a retention/marketing operation and prioritised accordingly.... 

[pr3]

Let me check back in a few months time to see if you start to listen to feedback from the frontlines and give at least one wish a "under consideration".

I set a kind low bar here.

[Ahmed_K]

I also noticed that a lot of very needed wishes disappeared,  like new window door tool, ceiling tool, revamped wall tool, etc

[Lingwisyer]

Maybe there's only the intern in the back office working on this... You have also got to wonder what happened to the internal Wishlist, might have gotten lost under the heap of papers.

[Pavel_N]

1) Regarding the wishlist system, I don't understand the current process settings. Wishes that were already selected two years ago don't even appear on the roadmap. They're supposedly on some internal GS roadmap.. I really don't want to be annoying, but I find it disrespectful to users who try to create wishes and vote. On the official roadmap, out of the many wishes, things appear that GS ultimately chooses anyway? Shouldn't it be automatic that the really strong wishes with a large number of votes go straight to the official roadmap. Even if there are only a few of those selected wishes (e.g. 2-3 per year?)

2) A point to think about. Wishes are set to vote on what the average community wants. I'm a little worried that this may make ArchiCAD a little outdated. I'll give an example. Wishes to improve work with point clouds typically don't score points, even though the current interface is far behind the competition. It seems logical to me, most wish-voters don't work with them now. But it is absolutely clear that this will change in the order of a few years. As the price of human labor increases, point cloud surveying is already cheaper in my region than classic manual surveying.

Despite my point no. 1), it is worth considering whether functions that prepare ArchiCAD for the future should be developed, regardless of the wishlist? (I know that this is partly happening with AI, for example, but this does not currently improve everyday tools like working with pointclouds)

3) Users create requests to fix age-old bugs, see for example my request to fix SEO behavior in Renovation filters. Shouldn't bug fixes be an automatic concern of the developer? I.e. a fix in one of the next updates. I think these mundane requests are not even too sexy to be chosen. I have even noticed that some users have become so used to this bug that they call it a limitation 🙂 Instead, the power of the wishlist is weakening by requests of this type.

4) It would make sense to separate the wishlist from the "Building Together" menu into a separate menu field. Someone already mentioned this here, I agree with this. The real power of users to intervene in the further development of AC is the basis for success and a good relationship with them.

Thank you very much.