getting to know mac.....

[Anonymous]

g4 is the processor and mac0S is the operating system.

so, does it mean the G4 is equivalent to Intel Pentium in PC and macOS X is equivalent to wind 95, 98, XP, etc ?

and what is panther , jaguar and safari in mac then?

[rm]

lsid wrote:
g4 is the processor and mac0S is the operating system.

so, does it mean the G4 is equivalent to Intel Pentium in PC and macOS X is equivalent to wind 95, 98, XP, etc ?

and what is panther , jaguar and safari in mac then?

As far as OS goes, XP for windows is probably the closest to OSX for the Mac as you will get for now.
Isid - that is a wide open question. Depending who you ask, and what G4 or Pentium you are talking about the answer could be yes, no, and sometimes.
Mac evangelist will tell you, no way the Mac is WAY more elegant of a interface. Windows evangelist would argue the opposite.

My advice is you actually try to use or borrow both for more than a five minute demo. If you have the luxury of trying to produce a model, and contract documents on both platforms, I think your mind will be made up, and you will know what system works best for you.

I think many people would agree that AC 8.1 will run faster on the fastest Pentium machine vs the fastest Mac, even a G5...( God knows, we Mac faithful hope this changes one day!!!!!).

I think many people would also agree that setting up Mac, maintaining a Mac network, and hooking up peripherals is generally less time consuming. That is an advantage to using a platform where the hardware and OS come from the same source... I better hide now, I can feel the attacks coming now;)

Panther is Mac OSX 10.3 the latest Mac OS, Jaguar is Mac OSX 10.0 - 10.2, Safari is an Apple web browser.... probably the fastest out there, but still has problems with some sites written specifically for Internet Explorer, especially sites with .WMA files.

Hope that helps,
Architects Design Forum, Ltd.


Robert Mariani

.........been using Macs since '85, can't wait for G10!

[Anonymous]

G4 is a rough equivalent to a Pentium 4 (though slower)

G5 is a rough equivalent to a Pentium 4 Xeon (though faster according to Apple)

Mac OSX is the newest operating system for the Macs as Windows XP is the latest version for PCs (IMHO, OSX is far superior to XP functionally, not even counting that XP is seriously ugly - again, just my opinion)

Jaguar is the codename/nickname for OSX version 10.2 and Panther is the name for 10.3. Similarly Longhorn is the codename for the next version of Windows (due to be released in 2005?).

Safari is a web browser created by Apple which is free to Mac users (well free to anyone I guess but it only runs on Macs.)

Windows 95 and 98 are another matter. IMHO they have no place in professional practice (Windows NT, 2000, and XP are the only versions I have ever recommended), and Windows ME is a horrorshow. Thankfully this troubled line of DOS progeny has come to an end giving the long suffering users of those older machines the opportunity to switch machines that not only work, but are works of art. (Seriously, most museum design collections include at least one Mac. I would be very surprised to ever see a Dell in an art museum - except maybe in Austin Maybe some IBM harware by Richard Sapper could make the cut.)

PS:
I hope everyone will excuse my sliding into a bit of a Mac/PC diatribe, but I just went through a very frustrating experience last night helping a friend set up a wireless network with some old (and not so old) PC laptops. After five hours of screwing around with different attempts to install the drivers we managed to get the one newest one working and figured out what we would need to finish the job on the others (additional discs and hardware we didn't feel like searching for at midnight). These were not wierd no-name machines either: a Dell Inspiron & Latitude and a Sony Vaio.

I was surprised by the Vaio. I have always liked their looks and have always held Sony in fairly high regard, but it felt kind of cheesy to me. The build quality definitely did not seem up to what I am used to from IBM and Apple.

She also has an old IBM 486 ThinkPad which I didn't try to setup for wireless (I doubt that it is possible and haven't the time to find out) but it is, curiously, the nicest machine of the bunch. The screen is still perfect and it starts up and runs nicely with Windows 95. It is the "butterfly" keyboard model which is surprisingly sturdy. (I am already a fan of the ThinkPads, this just reinforces my bias.)

By contrast my PowerBook was instantly connected from the moment I arrived (seriously, I opened it, turned it on, and had immediate access - it even told me the names of the other access points in the building). I have also set up a 1998 vintage PowerBook for wireless in OS9 easily & OSX with just a little trouble to find an open source driver on the web. All of the PCs are newer than my old G3.

This experience is not because I am more familiar with Macintosh. While I have spent more time working WITH my Macs, I have spent (much) more time working ON my PCs. This is despite the fact that I use ThinkPads which I find much easier to maintain than other PCs.

Anyway, enough ranting. I feel better now, thanks.

[Anonymous]

speaking of Austin..

There is a computer museum locally that actually does have the Dell models AND early Macs! Some real early ones as well Apple I and IIe.. I know a couple of guys there try to boot them up and see what happens

I remember being in college and wishing to God I had $5000 for the NeXT step! LOL...

I just installed ArchiCAD on a G5 Dual 2 Ghz... there is a GOD!!

+pablo