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Duplicate Object in Monolithic Archicad Library 28

Ransom Ratcliff
Enthusiast

There is a duplicate object (Tolerance.gsm) when following Option 1 instructions for Archicad 28 Migration.

 

Duplicated Tolerance Object.png

 

Operating system used: Mac Apple Silicon Sonoma 14.6.1

Ransom Ratcliff
RATCLIFF CONSULTING LLC
Charrette Venture Group
ArchiCAD 4.55 - 28
Apple M3 Max + Dell Precision Workstation
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Hi @Magdolna Marosvari and All,

This seems a huge task with many possible pitfalls, especially for someone who isn't the original author of these libraries. We can't even see the contents of the libpak files in the File Manager without extracting them, much less understand which files and macros are called by which other parts.

This is far more difficult than even producing the subset Migration Libraries for each version of ArchiCAD (which I did for our market for AC6.5 through 10, at which point GS kindly took it over, which was easier for them without the reverse engineering and trial and error I was going through. lol  But I was paid by the local reseller by the hour to do this each year.)

We really should not expect architecture firms to float this kind of overhead for their BIM Managers to figure this out and implement it, company by company. I hope Graphisoft, with their deep understanding of GDL and the library legacies, will do this heavy lifting again for all of us. Just use a different Main ID in the GUIDs of localized parts that are actually different, and we'll be able to collaborate internationally without missing parts or duplicates.

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Sorry if I'm missing something.

Ransom Ratcliff
RATCLIFF CONSULTING LLC
Charrette Venture Group
ArchiCAD 4.55 - 28
Apple M3 Max + Dell Precision Workstation

Hi @Magdolna Marosvari,

I tried to follow your instructions but none of the parts in the Library Packages load if they are in a folder and I try to load the folder as a monolithic library.

Here is what tried:

  1. Starting with the default USA template "AC28 USA Template.tpl" I see that it is loading 48 library packs of the 77 provided in the "Archicad Library Packages" folder and one LCF file, "Archicad Legacy Objects USA.lcf",
  2. So I copy these 48 LibPack files and the LCF into a new folder called "ArchiCAD LibPacks USA 28"
  3. Then, in the Library Manager, I unload the separate LibPack files and the "Archicad Legacy Objects USA.lcf" and load the new ArchiCAD LibPacks USA 28 instead.

This results in 386 missing parts.

Indeed, the only parts that load while in the monolithic folder, are the ones in the LCF.

Default USA Libpacks loaded in a folder.png

 

What am I doing wrong?

Thanks!

Ransom

Ransom Ratcliff
RATCLIFF CONSULTING LLC
Charrette Venture Group
ArchiCAD 4.55 - 28
Apple M3 Max + Dell Precision Workstation

Hi @Ransom Ratcliff ,

 

The steps you were doing are almost perfect. One thing: when you want to load the content of ArchiCAD Libpacks USA 28 folder do it in a way that you select all the libpacks within the folder with Cmd + A.

 

Regarding your previous message about the arrangement of the packages: There are multiple arrangement needs from users contradicting each other. Picking a certain arrangement would have deprived a group of users having them arranged in a way necessary for them. That's why we went for providing the liberty of arrangement. This doesn't mean that the thinking has to stop here, we see your point.

 

Best regards,

Magdolna

Hi @Magdolna Marosvari ,

 

Thank you, that last bit of clarification was really helpful. Question: is we create these custom folder and move/copy the libpacks there, will they be automatically updated in the future since their folder path has been changed? Or the updates will happened only to the original libpack folder and we have to copy the updated packs in our custom folders?

 


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