Have a hard time with closures for windows and doors

[Anonymous]

Hello!

Actually two things I'm struggling with and can't get it done.
First is outer finish brick layer and its closure over the window. I want it to be same width as window frame, in other words can I control a width of a turn ?

Second is door and plaster turn for door, I can't make inner thin plaster turn towards door like it is for window. it turns only if "consider skin as plaster is unchecked" but in this case it turns by penetrating core which is bad, I will try to paint how I want it to be on second attached image.

1 is current image , 2 is desired result


Not related to above question directly but just curious, why Archicad allows core to be penetrated at all ?

Best Regards !

[Lingwisyer]

For the window, would changing the Reveal Type then use the Custom Closure to set a custom thickness to the external turn.

Regarding the door, can you show what this setting is? Is it the Custom Closure? Do the standard returns not work? Also, which version of AC are you using?



Ling.

[Anonymous]

Hi, appreciate your help, thanks.
Using AC 24, on your uploaded image plaster around the door is ok, what is your settings ? Can you please share the simple file?

For window that bottom turn it is still not that, I want turn to end where window frame ends, see picture, those vertical lines are turn width I want. in other words I want to control width of that turn to set it as much window frame requires, or go even beyond (inside window opening).

[Anonymous]

Ok , I got windows working like I want, but still struggling with layer around a door opening.

[Lingwisyer]

For the door I turned off the Wall Closure and just set the plaster turn to automatic.



Ling.

[Anonymous]

when I'm setting closure "No Closure" it disables "automatic" checkboxes


why I can't just use "finish closure" option or other from list and instead of how it is letter "a"
make it look like on "b" ?

[Anonymous]

"For the door I turned off the Wall Closure and just set the plaster turn to automatic."
yes but in my case those "turn plaster" settings are frozen for doors, even when set to "No Closure" they are frozen, any idea why ?


in short how to achieve results like inside red rectangle on a picture?

[Lingwisyer]

I remember someone else in the past having issues with those settings being locked, but I do not recall the solution... It is probably somewhere around here...

[Anonymous]

Lingwisyer wrote:
I remember someone else in the past having issues with those settings being locked, but I do not recall the solution... It is probably somewhere around here...

Yes they are locked and it makes that turn impossible, might it be Archicad bug ? would be nice to find that topic you mentioned to know whether or not he found a solution.
Overally I found kinda workaround by using another door type named "storefront", which has plaster turn unlocked. Looks like hinged doors have a problem.

Anyway why hinged doors "turn plaster" options are frozen, anyone have any idea ?

[Anonymous]

I managed to combine Reveal (With the last option) and Wall Closure (with Plaster Reveal Option).
In the Reveal Setting you can control both sides respective skins.
Just checked the 2d and its ok.
Hope this helps