Sliding Door - Double Stacker plus awning window on fixed panel

[Matt_Sterne]

Using Ci Tools Door & Window builder, is it possible to create a sliding door with three panels, two sliding and the third fixed panel having an awning window?

Operating system used: Mac Apple Silicon

[Patrick M · Accepted solution]

yeah, you probably need to model it with a window, not a door... something like this:
(sorry if it's not exactly right, I only spent 3 min. tinkering...)

 

[Patrick M]

I spent another 5 min... got you the exact configuration... although I'm not sure how the sliding windows open over an awning unit... but it is definitely doable:

 

[Matt_Sterne · Accepted solution]

Thanks for that Patrick. Indeed, inserting surface sliding doors into the Ci Tools window tool was the ticket! I had to place the door into the wall somewhat inside out to position the sliders on the interior as they should be to avoid clashing with the outward opening awning. Then it was a matter of playing around with the frame sizes and interior trims to make it appear like there is a track under the sliding doors in plan view. Glad to finally have these represented correctly in the drawings.

 

 

[Barry Kelly]

How does that slide inside of the awning window?

Wouldn't that hit the winder mechanism?

I would check with your window manufacturer that that is even possible.

I am not saying it is not, but I have never seen this.

Barry.

[Patrick M]

a lot of the high end homes I've worked on specifying window packages like this are all bespoke assemblies. They have their "kit of parts", but often end up with one off extrusions and assemblies.
Most aren't using a standard jeldwen or anderson style mechanism, some are even motorized/automated... the details and shops for some of those manufacturers I've seen are insane... almost as insane as the price tag. I've seen window packages that were more than $4x the total cost of my home.

[Matt_Sterne]

Hi Barry, most joinery manufacturers offer this set up in New Zealand. It allows for ventilation when the sliding door is shut if there are no other windows in the room. The frames are deep enough to offset the sliders from the handles of the awning window. Here's some pictures of the one our office:

 

  

[Barry Kelly]

Ah, just a push out awning.

I am used to awning windows with winding mechanisms mounted to the sill.

These would get in the way.

Barry.