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how make lib parts live with dim in s/e

Erika Epstein
Booster
In the section/elevation windows, non-graphisoft parts won't dimension live.
I was wondering if any knows why and what could be added to a script to make it live.

By live I mean when I snap a dimension to a node on an object, if the object is moved, the dimension will follow.
thanks
Erika
Erika
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__archiben
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Erika wrote:
In the section/elevation windows, non-graphisoft parts won't dimension live.
erika

i think it's less to do with who's made the object and more as to whether or not it includes scripted HOTSPOT nodes rather than just leaving archiCAD to generate nodes at polygonal corners . . . i may be wrong . . .

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Aussie John
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Editable hotspots ( green diamond type) are always associative for dimensions.
Actually they dont need to be editable but have the ID number associated with editable hotspots.
Cheers John
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Erika Epstein
Booster
Ben and JOhn,
You are correct, editable hotspots always give live dimensions in both plan and section/elevation.

I am still puzzled by the behavior of doors or windows being different as to live dimensioning in plan from s/e. In plan dimensions to the edges of the door/win are live dimensions. These same corners in 3D are not. The plan nodes are not the tell-tale diamond of the editable hotspots.

Why then doesn't the same hold true in s/e when dimensioned are attached to the corners of the openings? Are the plan nodes a kind of editable hotspot that doesn't sport the tell-tale diamond appearance?
The doors and windows I tested this on were both graphisoft and 3rd-party ones.

Wouldn't it be good if when you change the height of a door or window that its dimension adjust with the it?
Erika
Architect, Consultant
MacBook Pro Retina, 15-inch Yosemite 2.8 GHz Intel Core i7 16 GB 1600 MHz DDR3
Mac OSX 10.11.1
AC5-18
Onuma System

"Implementing Successful Building Information Modeling"
Aussie John
Newcomer
Erika
2D associative hotspots were a feature of doors and windows long before 3D editable hotspots where just a twinkle in the eye of the developer, so I am guessing door, windows and other 2d elements use a different approach to the hotspot system.
Cheers John
John Hyland : ARINA : www.arina.biz
User ver 4 to 12 - Jumped to v22 - so many options and settings!!!
OSX 10.15.6 [Catalina] : Archicad 22 : 15" MacBook Pro 2019
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Erika Epstein
Booster
thanks again John
Erika
Architect, Consultant
MacBook Pro Retina, 15-inch Yosemite 2.8 GHz Intel Core i7 16 GB 1600 MHz DDR3
Mac OSX 10.11.1
AC5-18
Onuma System

"Implementing Successful Building Information Modeling"
Anonymous
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The answer is very easy
Imagine simple GDL object - box AxBxZZYZX

Note You should enter new parameter (in addition to basic A & B) -ZZYZX (exactly the name zzyzx !!!)

The 3D script will look like this

BLOCK a,b,zzyzx

HOTSPOT 0,0,0
HOTSPOT a,0,0
HOTSPOT a,b,0
HOTSPOT 0,b,0

HOTSPOT 0,0,zzyzx
HOTSPOT a,0,zzyzx
HOTSPOT a,b,zzyzx
HOTSPOT 0,b,zzyzx


Hotspots should be placed exactly in object corner positions (a,b,xxyzx)

All dimensions will be editable from 3D view

Note that even on 2D view hotspots shoud be placed into these points - otherwise object willn't be ediotable by drag&drop

Why 'non'-graphisoft developers doesn't sometimes follow this rule ? - perhaps they simply doný know it or doesn't care about 3D window editing.

For example I done more then 300 different objects - from simple ones t overy-very complicated ones (150-200 kB program text) - but I also offen don't put featured 3D hotspots

Hope this answer will find You well