AC 17, Moving in 3D, Auto level assignement

[Anonymous]

Hi,
AC17 is great really, But it's really annoying, In 3D view when I move object (form, wall, slab...) in heigt AC auto change the level assignment. And it is not a good thing !!!

Is there a way to disable this auto-function?

[Anonymous]

Hotfix 2 definitely has a bug in it relating to levels.

For example, create a slab and save it as a favorite. I created a desk surface and had it set to be placed on the current story 2'-6" above the current story.

Under "favorite preferences" I have checked the boxes so that the "home story" for all elements are not save with the favorites. This has worked perfectly for creating my wall favorites. The wall will then always be placed relative to my current story. However, with the slab favorites the slab story placement wanders.

If you now create another slab favorite (it can even be the same slab with a different name) you now have two favorites to choose from. If you initially place a slab using the favorite settings it works fine and can be placed relative to any story you move to.

However, if you choose the other favorite and select the original one again the slab will now be placed on the story below. In fact, each time you select another favorite and come back again the slab is placed down an ADDITIONAL story. (i.e. -2 the second time, -3 the third time, -4 the forth time.) My slab favorite setting eventually placed a desk slab down 400ft in a story I use for some 2D details!

Conclusion, My slab favorites are not currently useable. I assume others are having the same issue?

[Link]

sbaum wrote:
Hotfix 2 definitely has a bug in it relating to levels.

... I assume others are having the same issue?

Yes I am experiencing the same issue with object and wall favorites as well. Something tells me this bug may be related to all 3D favorites and is a hangover from the original issue mentioned in this thread.

I have been able to force them all to work, by continually redefining them, but the odd one still pops up quite regularly.

Hopefully GS are onto it.

Cheers,
Link.

[Brad Elliott]

Did this bug get worse in the latest hot fix? I have the descending layer problem now and I'm not working with favorites any more. It seems more prevalent with roofs and slab but I also have walls doing it. I'm currently working on a new project so doing a lot of moving around from plan to section to 3d views and modifying elements in all 3 views. When I go to place an element in plan I will get the alert that it was placed on a non visible story, which is a non helpful note without telling you the story. What I have noticed is that it will be placed on the next story down so I will fix the home story and move on. Then the next time I go to place the element it gets placed on the next progressive story down. After a while everything ends up trying to be placed on story -4. I haven't been able to figure out the process that triggers it but it keeps coming up. And its happening in plan view which has not been a problem before.

[Anonymous]

Another quirk seems to occur when you use the Multiply command in the 3D window to duplicate elements vertically. For instance, I wanted to duplicate a curtain wall element vertically for 23 stories. While the elements were placed in the right position, they each remained on the original story with different offsets. I then had to edit each instance of the curtain wall to be associated with the correct home story and zero offset.

[Barry Kelly]

At the bottom of the Multipy dialogue box you will find an option to "Set home Storey by Elevation".
Turn that on and your problem will be solved.

I have another issue with assigning storeys.
If you have a roof (multi-plane or single plane) in a particular storey that spans into other storeys and you want to place elements with the gravity tool in the bottom storey then as you place higher on the roof it will automatically jump into the next storey (there will be a warning message unless you have turned it off).
There is no choice to keep the storey you want - you have to adust the elements afterwards.
I have reported this as a bug but i am not sure if anything will be done about it.
It has only happened since version 17.
Gravity to a multi-plane roof doesn't work at all in 16 but it does to a single plane roof and the storey stays as you want it regardless of the height the element gets placed.

Barry.

[Anonymous]

Sweet! Found it. Thank you!

[Katalin Borszeki]

Hi All, this was a bug that has been fixed fin AC17.

Despite of unchecking (or keeping unchecked) "home story" in the favorite preferences, the home story was not kept for some elements.

It was kept for these elements: wall, column, zone.
and didn't work for these: beam, obj/lamp/stair, slab, roof, mesh, shell, morph.

If you are still experiencing the problem, please install the latest AC17 update.

[Barry Kelly]

KatalinBorszeki wrote:
Hi All, this was a bug that has been fixed fin AC17.

Despite of unchecking (or keeping unchecked) "home story" in the favorite preferences, the home story was not kept for some elements.

It was kept for these elements: wall, column, zone.
and didn't work for these: beam, obj/lamp/stair, slab, roof, mesh, shell, morph.

If you are still experiencing the problem, please install the latest AC17 update.

Still doesn't work for me in build 6004.
Doesn't work for walls, columns or zones either - never has.

Barry.