ArchiCAD 11

[Anonymous]

ArchiCAD 11 will come soon (as much as I suspect..)
What can AC 11 do better than AC10?

[Anonymous]

I ask AC-user: do you know every part of AC10?
AC 10 is still very nice for the purpose of working with CAD.
It takes time to be used to work with AC 10.
AC 11 is too early.

[Laura Yanoviak]

But AC11 is a "minor" upgrade in comparision to AC10 from AC9. I don't see the difficulties with adjusting to AC11 as we did to AC10.

[Gerald Hoffman]

For anyone in the know can we do curved and profiled beams yet or are we still stuck using walls for beams?

[TomWaltz]

I'm just annoyed at how much that minor upgrade is costing.

[Rakela Raul]

dont you think that getting the MEP addon for free would make up?

[TomWaltz]

Rakela wrote:
dont you think that getting the MEP addon for free would make up?

If I had a use for it, it would be. As an architecture firm, I really don't have much use for an MPE, structural, or Civil add-ons.

When I go to management to get the money to buy 32 upgrade licenses, they want to know how it will improve our workflow or save us money.

I think it's great that we are (might be? I thought that was still in the rumor category) getting better MPE stuff, but it's not worth anything to me.

[Anonymous]

I must correct my comment about realease date for AC11.

The upgrade from AC 10 to 11 is enough for the short time period.
It makes sense to upgrade from AC 9 to 11.
AC 10 works still nice compared to AC 11.
Anyway I expect one or two more hotfix for AC10!

[Laura Yanoviak]

TomWaltz wrote:
I'm just annoyed at how much that minor upgrade is costing.

TomWaltz wrote:
When I go to management to get the money to buy 32 upgrade licenses, they want to know how it will improve our workflow or save us money.

I'm going through the same thing right now (32 seats) -- I think you have to look at the time saved per user per week and the average weekly salary: If all users save 1 hour a week (and I believe they will, given the new features), the upgrade pays for itself. That's my argument, anyway (we'll see if it works)...

Archi wrote:
AC 10 works still nice compared to AC 11.

Sure, as long as you don't have to deal with curved walls or interior elevations (and don't mind manually checking half of your reference tags).

[Anonymous]

Sure curved wall with profile manager is the highlight of AC11.
Everybody knew the curved wall will be possible in AC 11.
Maybe the curved wall would be already possible in AC 10, but saved for AC 11.
The curved wall with profile manager is also possible with AC 10 (in sequence way)

[TomWaltz]

Laura wrote:
If all users save 1 hour a week (and I believe they will, given the new features), the upgrade pays for itself. That's my argument, anyway (we'll see if it works)...

That's my problem. I don't believe there's enough to save every single user one hour (total: 32 work hours) every week. Over a year, that's 1660 work hours saved... I have a really hard time believing that, looking at the work we're doing and the minimal new features (and raised price) of AC11.

Actually, the numbers I used were a lot lower. Considering the true "cost of employee", I estimated a cost of $25,440 and a required savings of 400 hours... which I still did not believe.

With the latest price increase from GS, Autocad with Revit is now cheaper annually than Archicad is... ($895 for Archicad, $725 for Autocad/Revit)... can somebody explain that? Why do more frequent upgrades cost more? Somehow, I expected more frequent upgrades that have less in them to cost less.

(yes, my first pair of Revit licenses just showed up... play time!)